Facebook owns you

Tulip · 02-22-2009, 11:57 PM

Since The Cellar has a facebook page, this is something we should think about,...or not? This article says that Facebook claims the right to use whatever you put into your Facebook page, even after you terminated your page. Y'all read and let know what ya think.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,494064,00.html

Aliantha · 02-23-2009, 12:01 AM

I don't think that's really any different to any other site on the net where you post personal info. Even here on the cellar banned posters still have their content available for others to see, and you can't go back and delete the content if you want to.

On the other hand, you can delete everything off facebook and stop using it. Once it's deleted you're recinding your permission for them to use your content, so surely you'd have a case against them if you ever felt the need, not that I can imagine why it'd be an issue for most people.

Undertoad · 02-23-2009, 12:06 AM

They changed the policy on the basis of this story.

Tulip · 02-23-2009, 12:13 AM

Yups. It says Facebook archived everything and they have the right to use it.

classicman · 02-23-2009, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

On the other hand, you can delete everything off facebook and stop using it. Once it's deleted you're recinding your permission for them to use your content,

Absolutely NOT true and the reason I removed all that I could and deleted my account. Well that and all the shit that got on my computer from their "games" and other crap.

rfndong · 02-23-2009, 09:51 AM

Facebook will have sex with you while you are sleeping and then try to tell you that you just dreamed it.

xoxoxoBruce · 02-23-2009, 11:04 AM

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Bullitt · 02-23-2009, 12:46 PM

You can click "Delete", but that is no guarantee that the information you wanted to delete is actually gone. I discovered years old information that they kept of an old account of mine after I had "deleted" it. Everything you type on that website is recorded and will stay on their servers for who knows how long, a few years at the least as was my case.

I like Facebook and the ability to connect with people other than talking face to face or on the phone, as I am a person who doesn't enjoying talking on the phone. But stuff like this makes me seriously consider deleting my account. I convinced myself to settle for no personal info other than my email being made available on my profile. At least I can click the spam button for unwanted contact in that department. No such luck in the physical address or cell phone # department.

jinx · 02-23-2009, 01:05 PM

What's the problem though (aside from the viruses)... what are you putting on there that you suddenly decide you want eradicated?

classicman · 02-23-2009, 02:14 PM

Doesn't matter, Its the principle.

Bullitt · 02-23-2009, 02:49 PM

The problem for me is the deceitfulness of the whole shebang. Facebook's roots are in the pure desire to maintain contact with people you know despite distance from one another. Share a few laughs, talk, etc. Along the way, Facebook realized they wanted to cash in on this wildly increasingly popular free service. Unfortunately, the best way for a gigantic database of personal information to make money from its users is to exploit said information in whatever legal means possible. Facebook has failed miserably at this and as evidenced by this current discontent among its users, is no closer to figuring out how to make real $ from it all without stepping on the toes of the users it relies on. Passive click-through ads on the side of your profile will only make Facebook so much $, in the end they still do not have a real plan to make $ off the users and their information. I don't know about you, but I do not want my street address, cell phone number, or anything copyrighted on Facebook because in essence they are a database of information seeking to exploit that information at the expense of the users' privacy and control of said information. Facebook started as a benign service with which to connect with friends and has grown into a misguided profit seeking monster with little regard for the users on which it has been built up.

jinx · 02-23-2009, 03:15 PM

Ok, so cell phone number and home address, that makes sense. I wouldn't put that stuff up in the first place though. I don't even think I have my email address visible.

classicman · 06-19-2009, 01:13 PM

Facebook applications raise privacy fears

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Facebook users who sign up for We’re Related are given little idea how much of their personal information will be siphoned by the application, or – in the soothingly benign language of social networking – with whom this information will be “shared”.

New users are asked to give a blanket approval to let the application “pull your profile information, photos, your friends’ info and other content that it requires to work”. The application then appears to give itself the power to release this information to anyone else on Facebook – even if users have set stricter privacy settings to limit access to their personal data.

classicman · 06-19-2009, 01:14 PM

City requires Facebook passwords from job applicants

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If you’re planning to apply for a job with the city of Bozeman, prepare to clean up your Facebook page.

As part of routine background checks, the city asks job applicants to provide their usernames and passwords for their social-networking sites. And it has been doing it for years, city officials said.

“Please list any and all, current personal or business Web sites, Web pages or memberships on any Internet-based chat rooms, social clubs or forums, to include, but not limited to: Facebook, Google, Yahoo, YouTube.com, MySpace, etc.,” states a city waiver form applicants are asked to sign. Three lines are provided for applicants to list log-in information for each site.

City officials maintain the policy is necessary to ensure employees’ integrity and protect the public’s trust, but the American Civil Liberties Union of Montana says they may be crossing the line.

“I would guess that they’re on some shaky legal ground with this and we would certainly welcome (the opportunity) to look at something specific from somebody who’s impacted,” Executive Director Scott Crichton said Thursday.

Wow - WTH???

Undertoad · 06-19-2009, 01:29 PM

I think in a case like this I would simply say n/a. Wait for them to fire for cause and THEN bring the suit, as ACLU MT is trying to bring.

02-22-2009, 11:57 PM	#1
Tulip Professor Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,293	Facebook owns you Since The Cellar has a facebook page, this is something we should think about,...or not? This article says that Facebook claims the right to use whatever you put into your Facebook page, even after you terminated your page. Y'all read and let know what ya think. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,494064,00.html

02-23-2009, 12:01 AM	#2
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I don't think that's really any different to any other site on the net where you post personal info. Even here on the cellar banned posters still have their content available for others to see, and you can't go back and delete the content if you want to. On the other hand, you can delete everything off facebook and stop using it. Once it's deleted you're recinding your permission for them to use your content, so surely you'd have a case against them if you ever felt the need, not that I can imagine why it'd be an issue for most people. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

02-23-2009, 11:04 AM	#7
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	You say that like it's a bad thing. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-23-2009, 12:46 PM	#8
Bullitt This is a fully functional babe lair Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 2,324	You can click "Delete", but that is no guarantee that the information you wanted to delete is actually gone. I discovered years old information that they kept of an old account of mine after I had "deleted" it. Everything you type on that website is recorded and will stay on their servers for who knows how long, a few years at the least as was my case. I like Facebook and the ability to connect with people other than talking face to face or on the phone, as I am a person who doesn't enjoying talking on the phone. But stuff like this makes me seriously consider deleting my account. I convinced myself to settle for no personal info other than my email being made available on my profile. At least I can click the spam button for unwanted contact in that department. No such luck in the physical address or cell phone # department. __________________ Kiss my white Irish ass.

02-23-2009, 01:05 PM	#9
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	What's the problem though (aside from the viruses)... what are you putting on there that you suddenly decide you want eradicated? __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

02-23-2009, 12:06 AM	#3
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	They changed the policy on the basis of this story.

02-23-2009, 12:13 AM	#4
Tulip Professor Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,293	Yups. It says Facebook archived everything and they have the right to use it.

02-23-2009, 09:51 AM	#6
rfndong Writer of Writings Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 14	Facebook will have sex with you while you are sleeping and then try to tell you that you just dreamed it.

02-23-2009, 02:14 PM	#10
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Doesn't matter, Its the principle. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

02-23-2009, 02:49 PM	#11
Bullitt This is a fully functional babe lair Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 2,324	The problem for me is the deceitfulness of the whole shebang. Facebook's roots are in the pure desire to maintain contact with people you know despite distance from one another. Share a few laughs, talk, etc. Along the way, Facebook realized they wanted to cash in on this wildly increasingly popular free service. Unfortunately, the best way for a gigantic database of personal information to make money from its users is to exploit said information in whatever legal means possible. Facebook has failed miserably at this and as evidenced by this current discontent among its users, is no closer to figuring out how to make real $ from it all without stepping on the toes of the users it relies on. Passive click-through ads on the side of your profile will only make Facebook so much $, in the end they still do not have a real plan to make $ off the users and their information. I don't know about you, but I do not want my street address, cell phone number, or anything copyrighted on Facebook because in essence they are a database of information seeking to exploit that information at the expense of the users' privacy and control of said information. Facebook started as a benign service with which to connect with friends and has grown into a misguided profit seeking monster with little regard for the users on which it has been built up. __________________ Kiss my white Irish ass.

02-23-2009, 03:15 PM	#12
jinx Come on, cat. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: general vicinity of Philadelphia area Posts: 7,013	Ok, so cell phone number and home address, that makes sense. I wouldn't put that stuff up in the first place though. I don't even think I have my email address visible. __________________ Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

06-19-2009, 01:29 PM	#15
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	I think in a case like this I would simply say n/a. Wait for them to fire for cause and THEN bring the suit, as ACLU MT is trying to bring.

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