The Obamanation

[Shawnee123]

No, I just realized that it was useless to discuss it with you, Rerun and S123. So in order to not get shitty about it, I let it go.

Right, you let it go.

And, you don't point out the other 5 or so people who were like what are you talking about?

A suggestion: if you don't want to hear what people say about your political hollering, don't post it. Yeah, you love a good argument, unless you're wrong or others say you are.

Leave me out, because I am out.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by classicman

Basically, the questioner and the question were discussed beforehand, of that there is no doubt.

The questioner and the source of the question were discussed beforehand. That is all that there is no doubt about. Both sugarpop and yourself have noted that it did not appear that he was particularly prepared for the question itself.

[classicman]

WHAT.
THE.
FUCK.
EVER!

[Flint]

I don't even know what y'all are talking about, but I'd like for classicman to explain it to me in unambiguous terms.

[classicman]

E.
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How that flintlock?

[Flint]

Press Secretary's answer may be an attempt to evade question.

[Aliantha]

This thread has certainly degenerated overnight.

If I get this right classic, you simply feel that HP was given prefferential treatment because it suited Obamas own agenda right?

I think what others (including myself) are trying to point out is that this scenario is nothing new and in fact is pretty standard regardless of who's in office.

So the question which follows on for me is, do you think it's wrong that any Pres should be able to somewhat manage their press conferences or would you concede that it's an advantage to have a pres who doesn't look like a drongo during press conferences?

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

The questioner and the source of the question were discussed beforehand. That is all that there is no doubt about.

Ding ding ding.

Originally Posted by Aliantha

I think what others (including myself) are trying to point out is that this scenario is nothing new and in fact is pretty standard regardless of who's in office.

False - This is actually extremely rare. The reaction of other members of the press was apparently one of shock. This exchange was that blatant.

Originally Posted by Aliantha

So the question which follows on for me is, do you think it's wrong that any Pres should be able to manage their press conferences ?

Ding ding ding - we have a winner. A press conference is NOT an infomercial.

I am done with this. I am the only one who feels this way. I get your point and quite honestly, no longer care if anyone else gets mine. Now you all go and have a Blessed day, ya hear?

Originally Posted by classicman

False - This is actually extremely rare. The reaction of other members of the press was apparently one of shock. This exchange was that blatant.

The "reaction of shock of other members of the press" certainly doesnt show up on the video of the press conference...only apparently "reported" as such on right wing blogs.

Oh...and the all too classic short and selective memory of wing nuts.

How soon they forget Jeff Gannon, the poser as a conservative reporter, given WH credentials, called on by Bush on numerous occasions for "soft questions" and thought by many long time WH reporters to be planted....until he was exposed as a male stripper/gay prostitute....at which time, no more access to WH briefings.

James Dale Guckert (born 1957) posed as a conservative columnist under the pseudonym Jeff Gannon and was given credentials as a White House reporter between 2003 and 2005, eventually being employed by the news organization Talon News during the latter part of this period. Gannon first gained national attention during a presidential press conference on January 26, 2005, when he asked United States President George W. Bush a question that some in the press corps considered "so friendly it might have been planted."Gannon routinely obtained daily passes to White House briefings, attending four Bush press conferences and appearing regularly at White House press briefings. Although he did not qualify for a Congressional press pass, Gannon was given daily passes to White House press briefings "after supplying his real name, date of birth and Social Security number."Gannon came under public scrutiny for his lack of a journalistic background prior to his work with Talonand his involvement with various homosexual escort service websites using the professional name "Bulldog". Gannon resigned from Talon News on February 8, 2005. Continuing to use the name Gannon, he has since created his own official homepage and worked for a time as a columnist for the Washington Blade newspaper, where he confirmed he was gay after he was outed as a homosexual prostitute.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Gannon

As opposed to a US-based reporter who had more contact with Iranian dissidents then probably any other reporter in the room.

[classicman]

nice tail post about your buddy there Rerun.

The truth will set you free!

If you dont choke on it first when it contradicts your bullshit.

[Flint]

Haggis!

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by classicman

Ding ding ding.

The fact that the normal order was disrupted shows that there was a a normal order in the first place. If there's a normal order, then it is normal for the questioner to be predetermined.

So apparently the "Ding ding ding" is over the fact that he knew the source of the question would be an Iranian, which he anounced when he called on the reporter.

[classicman]

Originally Posted by classicman

WHAT.
THE.
FUCK.
EVER!

[Aliantha]

Originally Posted by classicman

Ding ding ding.



False - This is actually extremely rare. The reaction of other members of the press was apparently one of shock. This exchange was that blatant.

Maybe they were just jealous?

Ding ding ding - we have a winner. A press conference is NOT an infomercial.

I am done with this. I am the only one who feels this way. I get your point and quite honestly, no longer care if anyone else gets mine. Now you all go and have a Blessed day, ya hear?

I just don't think it's all that uncommon classic. The fact that Obama is a smooth operator maybe makes some people nervous, but I really just don't think he did anything out of the ordinary. In fact, I'd go so far as to suggest that almost every leader of state knows exactly what questions are going to be asked of them and by whom at every press conference simply because they know what's on the agenda. Just because he pointed out to the HP journo that he knew what his question was going to be doesn't mean anything. In fact, he might even have been humouring him as a parent would an inquisitive child. It's Obama's job as president to know what's going on, and also to answer the questions that seem most important to his countrymen.