Copy machine security risk

Lamplighter · 10-04-2010, 03:47 PM

Maybe this has been on TheCellar before, but if not I feel everyone should know about it.

CBS report here...

Since 2002 copy machines have had hard drives, and store images on this hard drive of every copy, fax, and email scan.
Often these images are not erased before the used machine is sold / given away.

Cloud · 10-04-2010, 04:35 PM

I don't think I believe that. You have no idea of the volume of paperwork we move through our main machine--even if it had terabytes or something, we'd have to be replacing the hard drive. a lot.

it may have a record of the number of copies; maybe even associated with client numbers (since we have a system for that), but as for taking a picture of each and every page run through it, and storing it indefinitely--no.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-04-2010, 05:17 PM

Fuck ya, that's what you get for abusing your employer's trust, using company equipment for personal stuff.

Happy Monkey · 10-04-2010, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloud

I don't think I believe that. You have no idea of the volume of paperwork we move through our main machine--even if it had terabytes or something, we'd have to be replacing the hard drive. a lot.

it may have a record of the number of copies; maybe even associated with client numbers (since we have a system for that), but as for taking a picture of each and every page run through it, and storing it indefinitely--no.

It does store page images. It probably stores them indefinitely, as in it is not definite how long they are stored. Probably FIFO (first in, first out) - the oldest images are deleted when space is needed.

Cloud · 10-04-2010, 05:28 PM

I agree. It does scan the pages in order to make the copies, but it doesn't keep them forever. I'm not too worried--someone one have to go through hundreds and hundreds of pages in order to find one kind of usable nugget.

easier to go through our trash

Happy Monkey · 10-04-2010, 05:41 PM

Thousands of pages, I expect. Disk space is cheap.

Cloud · 10-04-2010, 05:48 PM

hundred and hundreds of thousands of pages. I meant. (aka a whole lot) sorry

xoxoxoBruce · 10-04-2010, 05:49 PM

Didn't the guy say 20 thousand?

Cloud · 10-04-2010, 05:57 PM

20,000? we can go through that in a week. Well, okay -- a month. Lawyers kill trees.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-04-2010, 06:02 PM

That doesn't matter, the hard drive is still holding the last 20K when it goes out the door, and that's 20K too many. I'm sure the lawyers wouldn't be happy if you left copies of the last 20K documents you handled on the doorstep.

Cloud · 10-04-2010, 06:06 PM

don't care. really, really don't.

footfootfoot · 10-04-2010, 06:08 PM

A friend of mine got fired for xeroxing her boobs on the company machine. She got busted because she left the original in the machine...

xoxoxoBruce · 10-04-2010, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloud

don't care. really, really don't.

You don't care about your client's personal information. Isn't that violation of your lawyer boss's hypocrite oath?

3foot, go to your room.

glatt · 10-05-2010, 07:22 AM

Our copiers have hard drives, and we can access them from our desktops on the network. After I make a personal scan of something, I go back to my desk and pull it up, then I delete it from the copier's hard drive. If it's work related, I just leave it there. Once, I snooped around in that drive a little, but quickly got bored. Nothing juicy in there. I have to assume our IT people know to erase that hard drive before it goes out. They knew to link to it in the first place.

Pete Zicato · 10-05-2010, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot

A friend of mine got fired for xeroxing her boobs on the company machine. She got busted because she left the original in the machine...

Cracked me up, foot.

But... left a boob in the machine?

10-04-2010, 03:47 PM	#1
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	Copy machine security risk Maybe this has been on TheCellar before, but if not I feel everyone should know about it. CBS report here... Since 2002 copy machines have had hard drives, and store images on this hard drive of every copy, fax, and email scan. Often these images are not erased before the used machine is sold / given away.

10-04-2010, 04:35 PM	#2
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	I don't think I believe that. You have no idea of the volume of paperwork we move through our main machine--even if it had terabytes or something, we'd have to be replacing the hard drive. a lot. it may have a record of the number of copies; maybe even associated with client numbers (since we have a system for that), but as for taking a picture of each and every page run through it, and storing it indefinitely--no. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!" Last edited by Cloud; 10-04-2010 at 05:16 PM.

10-04-2010, 05:17 PM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Fuck ya, that's what you get for abusing your employer's trust, using company equipment for personal stuff. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-04-2010, 05:28 PM	#5
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	I agree. It does scan the pages in order to make the copies, but it doesn't keep them forever. I'm not too worried--someone one have to go through hundreds and hundreds of pages in order to find one kind of usable nugget. easier to go through our trash __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

10-04-2010, 05:41 PM	#6
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Thousands of pages, I expect. Disk space is cheap. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

10-04-2010, 05:48 PM	#7
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	hundred and hundreds of thousands of pages. I meant. (aka a whole lot) sorry __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

10-04-2010, 05:49 PM	#8
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Didn't the guy say 20 thousand? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-04-2010, 05:57 PM	#9
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	20,000? we can go through that in a week. Well, okay -- a month. Lawyers kill trees. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

10-04-2010, 06:02 PM	#10
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	That doesn't matter, the hard drive is still holding the last 20K when it goes out the door, and that's 20K too many. I'm sure the lawyers wouldn't be happy if you left copies of the last 20K documents you handled on the doorstep. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-04-2010, 06:06 PM	#11
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	don't care. really, really don't. __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

10-04-2010, 06:08 PM	#12
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	A friend of mine got fired for xeroxing her boobs on the company machine. She got busted because she left the original in the machine... __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

10-05-2010, 07:22 AM	#14
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Our copiers have hard drives, and we can access them from our desktops on the network. After I make a personal scan of something, I go back to my desk and pull it up, then I delete it from the copier's hard drive. If it's work related, I just leave it there. Once, I snooped around in that drive a little, but quickly got bored. Nothing juicy in there. I have to assume our IT people know to erase that hard drive before it goes out. They knew to link to it in the first place.

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