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Old 05-04-2020, 07:29 PM   #10
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Maybe the Brits save our ass here.
There are maybe 75 different vaccines in development. If we get lucky, one or a few will be successful. All are currently as promising as that Oxford vaccine.

Problem is obvious. Previous vaccines worked because, first, actual medical processes were first learned. We still do not know how this virus transfers. What in the immune system properly attacks it. Why some, already with antibodies, still get sick again. Or even if the coronavirus, as found in bats, is somehow different after it must first go into some other wild animal before infecting man.

A Mers coronavirus, normally found in some bats, must first go through a camel before it infects man. Why?

All those vaccines are predicated on speculation. On a hope that the necessary underlying science was understood. So that a vaccine, that requires four or ten years, might arrive in 1.5.

At least 3000 coronaviruses have been identified. Plenty more await discovery. Only seven are known to survive in man. Some are more contagious then others. A few cause a cytokine storm that causes death. Many others do not. Why?

A measles vaccine will last a lifetime. It appears immunity from Sars (another coronavirus) only lasts 2 years. Mers - 3 years. Many other flues - only six months. Why? Those two have only been known for one or two decades. So not enough time has existed to understand it.

What is 'memory' in B and T cells that make possible a recovery from Covid-19? Unknown. What then is a vaccine suppose to target to be successful?

What we do know. We still do not know very much.

Every solution (especially those hyped by a scumbag president) are best ignored as only wild speculation. In his case, promoted so that he will be reelected. Screw you Covid-19 victims. He cares about them just like Hitler was concerned with Jewish safety.

Another currently promoted myth, using emotions, is that smokers are better protected from Covid-19. Then we include facts that are too complicated for tweeters or political extremists.

Apparently nicotine tends to bind to a protein called ACE2. This is the protein that is somehow related to cytokine storms. Meaning a Covid-19 victim has less symptoms. But is still infecting others.

So the naive claim smoking is protection from Covid-19 only because the person is asymptomatic - but still infecting others.

Misinformation from sources such as hearsay, The Don, wild speculation, Fox News, and promoters of the Clorox cure.

We have no reason to believe any solution exists in the next 1.5 years. But we sure do have plenty of adults, acting like children, and promoting a solution as almost ready. Because some other stranger told them it was true. Which lies more? Peers or what was read on the internet?
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