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Old 04-05-2002, 05:54 PM   #11
dave
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Originally posted by Lost Viking


There is a difference between supporting palestinian action without condition and trying to support peace. The world is not black and white you know.

Peace makes the extremists irrelevant. Right now there is no moderate movement in palestine because how could your possibly support talks with people who want to openly drive you from your land? Ariel Sharon and his cronies have generated this on purpose because they need a situation where deporting people for "security reasons" are acceptable.

Nobody with any kind of brainpower supports suicide bombings against civilians. It's just that the extremists run the show on both sides, the moderates have been made irrelevant in this war like situation.

It's interesting to note that suicide bombings used to be the actions of 30 year old hardcore palestinian fanatics with long involvement in Fatah/Hamas/Al Aqsa etc etc. Now it's the action of god damn 18 year old children. Why? Because military action nurtures extremist action and makes the moderates irrelevant.
I know exactly how it works. I know what Sharon wants. I know what Arafat says he wants. I even know what Hamas and the like want.

I support a Palestinian state.

I condemn Israel's incursions into the West Bank.

I strongly condemn suicide bombings against civilians.

You are trying to complicate a very simple issue. Let me make it clear: <b>By targeting civilians with suicide bombs, Palestinian extremists give Israel ammunition with which to attack them</b>. Israel can look justified in its actions <b>because Palestinian extremists do what they do</b>. Palestinian extremists can <b>never</b> look justified in their actions because <b>they are killing innocent civilians</b>. Hence all the support of Israel.

Palestinian extremists don't want peace. They don't want their own state. They want Israel to be undone. You seem to be confused on that. So do 80% of Palestinians. By supporting the suicide bombings (80% of Palestinians) they are showing their ignorance in believing that the suicide bombers want peace. Some suicide bombers, such as the 18 year old girl that detonated herself last weekend, have taken the bait. She thought she was fighting Israel. No. She is fighting peace. She is fighting a Palestinian state.

Palestinian extremists will never win a war against Israel. They have to bargain. They have to go to the table. They can't win otherwise. Not in the court of public opinion and not against Israel, which is what matters.

If there were no suicide bombings, what justification would Israel possibly have for its recent actions?
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