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Old 08-16-2002, 01:42 PM   #16
MaggieL
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Originally posted by hot_pastrami

I think most would agree that unless a person is wealthy enough to absorb liability costs themselves, it is immoral for that person to operate a motor vehicle on public roads without auto insurance. Therefore, a law exists to enforce that moral, requiring a person to have insurance in order to drive.

To make enforcing this law easier...
You see, this is what I meant when I said people have different moral standards. In my view, failure to carry an insurance card isn't in itself immoral (what a lawyer might call "malum in se") even though it is against the law ("malum prohibitum").

Even you qualified your example..."wealthy enough"..."without insurance". That wasn't my example....my example was someone who *has* insurance who doesn't have their card. Who might not even *know* they don't have their card.

It's still illegal for them to drive...including the person who self-insures, there's still a document they must carry. The law exists strictly for the convenince of the police in verifying that your status under the motor vehicle code is valid.. It's a perfectly good law, I just don't feel that it regulates morality....which in my view is not the law's job.

Similarly, I don't believe it would be *immoral* for me to carry my Pennsylvania-legal handgun loaded with hollow-points in New Jersey, even though it would be highly illegal and not very bright.

If you're simply arguing that breaking any law is immoral, then there's not much point to this discussion....in that case anything can be *made* immoral, just by passing a law against it. :-)

"Grander" is definately a word, being the comparitive of "grand".

<blockquote>
Grand, a. Compar. Grander; superl. Grandest. OE.
<i>grant, grount</i>, OF. <i>grant,</i>, F.<i> grand</i>, fr. L. <i>grandis</i>; perh. akin to <i>gravis</i> heavy, E. <i>grave</i>, a. Cf. Grandee.
1. Of large size or extent; great; extensive; hence, relatively great; greatest; chief; principal...
</blockquote>

<blockquote>
<i>On the Stork Tower</i>
The sun burns white over the mountains,
The Yellow River rushes to the sea,
If you desire for a grander sight,
you have to reach a greater height. -- Wang Zhihuan
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