"the God of the Bible" (or "unbogging the IotD blog")

[Torrere]

Originally posted by joydriven
Absolutely nothing, friend. If you are looking for answers that come from flawless arguments within the realm of logic, I cannot go further than to use logic to prove to you that you rely on faith for other things and can therefore accept the Bible through faith as well.

I didn't say that circular reasoning was prerequisite to faith in the Bible. I recognize that it seems so to an extent, particularly to those in your position who doubt the Bible's qualifications and credibility. In the realm of logic/debate, using the Bible's self-claims about the Bible's authenticity and authority is not a valid method; it would be called circular reasoning. However, I am trying to point out that there may be other realms, beyond that of logic/debate. In the realm of faith (in which realm we all dabble every day on points far less consequential than the Bible's claims), circular reasoning is a non-entity.

I posit that circular reasoning is prerequisite. If you can provide me with 'absolutely nothing', then it would seem that Christianity has no more claim on truth than any other world religion, from Islam to Hinduism to Shinto. Hence, people who believe that they are properly following their own religious faith slaughtering other people who believe that they are properly following their own religious faith is ludicrous. When two groups of people who both believe that Jesus Christ is their savior slaughter each other because they disagree slightly in how they feel Christianity should be, it is barbaric.

That this seems justified to you is scary.

As for Christians killing Christians en masse over Christianity, I cite the warfare between the Trinitarian Christians and the Arian Christians, and between the Protestant Christians and the Catholic Christians. I define anyone who looks to Jesus Christ and the Bible (as they understand it) as Christian.