A National ID Card

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Originally posted by jaguar
So the NID as it stands (basing on what you said) would valiadte with a database every time you used it.....Giving your location and what you are doing to whoever controls it (the govt)

Ok now i'm really scared.

Using the logic as I understand it, you would have EasyPass banned because government could (and openly does) track you? Doesn't matter that you can choose not to be in the EasyPass system. Just the fact that others can use EasyPass is a threat to your liberties. (Parallel example is: does not matter that you have no NID. A National ID system for others use is still a threat to your liberties).

At least with a National ID, you can choose when and where to use it. Furthermore if you have a NID and don't use it, then the the 'powers you fear' have zero useful information. With EasyPass, anyone can track your movements at any time. All those secret monitors don't even require a court order or search warrant. They can track you without your knowledge.

If you have a fear of NID, then you must be turning blue over others that have EasyPass.

However if EasyPass does not threaten your liberties, then the NID is a zero threat. Why do I not hear any fear of EasyPass and the other equivalent system that will arrive?

Why do I hear no screaming fear of all those cameras on the highways monitoring for who?

Then there are Bank Cards. Heaven fear the end of the universe! Not only can they track you (and they do so) but they take your picture! They also take pictures of your companions. They will get you through your friends! Now there is something really to fear. ATMs are one step short of big brother monitors. They can track your card use, take your picture, and they can be everywhere monitoring your movements without knowledge - taking pictures as you move about even if you don't use that BankCard any more.

Again, if the BankCard is no threat to your liberties, the NID empowers your liberties even greater. We know that no NID means you WILL have less liberties as your good name sits like a target just waiting for anyone to steal. No NID or the equivalent means you will definitely have more threats to your liberties.

Again, I don't read a single logic reason for this fear of NID. I only read fear of everyone else. I read a fear of any system that exists even though you choose not to participate. It sounds psychotic; not logical.