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Old 12-28-2009, 03:49 PM   #19
Radar
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Originally Posted by Undertoad View Post
The servers aren't at my house. They're in a half-rack in a private cage at a quality colocation facility an hour away. One server runs the site, the other runs the database. Bandwidth used is... let us just say surprisingly high. To operate this setup at Hostgator would require 2 X "basic" package at a price of $174 each, a total of $348 per month, or $148 more than it currently costs for colo and bandwidth.

It is, of course, always a simple matter to price out the flavor of the month. It's entirely another matter to run one of the net's oldest communities for two decades. The Cellar started probably some 15 years before something called "Hostgator" was dreamt up, and believe me, the Cellar will outlive the business plans of 99.99% of Internet hosting operators. It does so because of my careful and considered decisions about how best to make it happen.

These decisions, by the way, are not so much up for discussion. I don't care to hear how you think you could run a system like this on "unlimited" plans for $8 a month. If you want to try it, go ahead. Start your own. Have a ball. Put it on a virtual server. Knock yourself the fuck out.

Except you don't need two servers because you can run the database and site on the same machine if it's beefy enough which those at hostgator, or any of the dozens of other hosting companies are offering. In fact you don't even need 1 fully dedicated server to run the cellar because they're offering unlimited bandwidth, storage, and even sites for $8/month.

What it really means is every dollar you spend over and above $8/month is a dollar wasted. As far as the cellar outlasting hosting companies, I highly doubt it. It's extremely rare that any hosting company goes away. They are merely swallowed up by larger ones.

But even if this is your argument it has no merit because Amazon EC2 will allow you to setup a server in minutes on a GIGANTIC server farm with guaranteed uptime, with auto backups, upgrades, etc. and it would still cost a fraction of what you're paying.

http://aws.amazon.com/ec2

Do you really think the cellar is going to outlast Amazon?


But as others say, this argument is old.



And Brianna you can go fuck yourself. This is an IT discussion and I know at LEAST as much as Tony does if not a lot more on the subject and have as much or more experience in the field. This isn't hubris, it's just a fact.
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