Idiot of The Day - Page 26

Griff · 01-19-2020, 08:50 AM

In PA you'll get slammed to the floor carrying in a courthouse.

Gravdigr · 01-19-2020, 11:53 AM

Even if'n you're a pohlees man?

xoxoxoBruce · 01-19-2020, 12:09 PM

Even cops can't carry in the courthouse.

Gravdigr · 01-19-2020, 12:21 PM

So, there are NO guns in a courthouse? Ever?

Hasn't there been news articles that talk about judges carrying under the robe?

Say some guy goes batshit over his parking ticket, do the bailiffs call 911 and wait?

xoxoxoBruce · 01-19-2020, 12:32 PM

They have clubs, mace, cuffs, and numbers. There are guns in the courthouse but not the part the public has access to except the Sheriff's office right inside the front door. In the back building I had to give up my jackknife going to the tax office because childrens court is in that building. On the way out I asked for it back and the guard pointed at a half full cardboard box and says help yourself. Must have been a hundred in there, I guess people assume they're gone, can't be that many people going in and being turned into soylent green.
I'm describing the DelCo courthouse, I try to stay out of the others.

Big Sarge · 01-19-2020, 10:14 PM

I have to disagree with you on the court. Down here, law enforcement officers can carry in court. I did when I was testifying. Also, our court bailiffs are armed. When I was a law enforcement officer, I even wore my sidearm when I met the governor at the capitol building.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-19-2020, 10:42 PM

This discussion started when Griff said "In PA you'll get slammed to the floor carrying in a courthouse." then I added even cops don't here. The discussion was about PA, I'm sure there are states that do and states that don't. There has also been cases of somebody freaking out and grabbing the bailiffs gun, and like Grav said Judges armed. I use to go with a woman who worked at a woodworking outfit in Lancaster County and she said they were building bulletproof Judges benches.

Big Sarge · 01-20-2020, 07:40 AM

Apologies, I thought the thread had drifted to a generalized statement. BTW, many of our judges are armed and some wear kevlar vests. I don't remember any of our judges in my part of the state being attacked physically, but we had an extremely famous case where a housekeeper was convicted of stealing a judge's nail clippings and hair to use in a voodoo ritual against him. She got a felony conviction.

Sorry for the thread drift.

Griff · 01-20-2020, 07:46 AM

Thread drift is high art. I want more on the voodoo track!

xoxoxoBruce · 01-20-2020, 09:11 AM

Right, tread drift takes us to the most interesting places. Nail clippings and hair is petty theft, not a felony, must have been for the voodoo. Maybe for attempted voodoo... with intent. Yeah, that's real interesting, any links to newspaper articles or anything?.

Big Sarge · 01-20-2020, 10:08 AM

Apologies guys, I got the details twisted. It was 2 brothers convicted of conspiracy to commit murder. They tried to get a lock of hair and a picture for the voodoo ritual. One brother got 10 years and the other got 5 years. The AP story link has the post conviction details

https://apnews.com/b40ef45f4220dd17a8840eecee80f2fb

Gravdigr · 01-20-2020, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

...I had to give up my jackknife.

Went to get my driver's license once and forgot my pocket knife was in my pocket. The bailiff said I'd have to give it up til I came back out. It was a very collectible knife, quite valuable, I asked him "Can I get a receipt for that knife?", he didn't hesitate and whipped out a logbook and gave me a receipt with a good description of the knife.

BigV · 01-20-2020, 11:29 AM

I've had that experience here entering the courthouse. I got a receipt and the knife went in a ziploc baggie presumably to keep the knife and the receipt together.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-20-2020, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Sarge

Apologies guys, I got the details twisted. It was 2 brothers convicted of conspiracy to commit murder. They tried to get a lock of hair and a picture for the voodoo ritual. One brother got 10 years and the other got 5 years. The AP story link has the post conviction details.

That's crazy, John Henry got 10 years for something going on outside while he was in jail?
And Leroy got 5 years for being the victim of a Voodoo priest scam? Good grief.

Griff · 01-21-2020, 06:38 AM

The price of stupidity can be high.

01-19-2020, 08:50 AM	#376
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	In PA you'll get slammed to the floor carrying in a courthouse. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

01-19-2020, 11:53 AM	#377
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	Even if'n you're a pohlees man? __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

01-19-2020, 12:09 PM	#378
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Even cops can't carry in the courthouse. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-19-2020, 12:21 PM	#379
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	So, there are NO guns in a courthouse? Ever? Hasn't there been news articles that talk about judges carrying under the robe? Say some guy goes batshit over his parking ticket, do the bailiffs call 911 and wait? __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

01-19-2020, 12:32 PM	#380
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	They have clubs, mace, cuffs, and numbers. There are guns in the courthouse but not the part the public has access to except the Sheriff's office right inside the front door. In the back building I had to give up my jackknife going to the tax office because childrens court is in that building. On the way out I asked for it back and the guard pointed at a half full cardboard box and says help yourself. Must have been a hundred in there, I guess people assume they're gone, can't be that many people going in and being turned into soylent green. I'm describing the DelCo courthouse, I try to stay out of the others. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-19-2020, 10:14 PM	#381
Big Sarge Werepandas - lurking in your shadows Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In the Deep South Posts: 3,408	I have to disagree with you on the court. Down here, law enforcement officers can carry in court. I did when I was testifying. Also, our court bailiffs are armed. When I was a law enforcement officer, I even wore my sidearm when I met the governor at the capitol building. __________________ Give a man a match, & he'll be warm for 20 seconds. But toss that man a white phosphorus grenade and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

01-19-2020, 10:42 PM	#382
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	This discussion started when Griff said "In PA you'll get slammed to the floor carrying in a courthouse." then I added even cops don't here. The discussion was about PA, I'm sure there are states that do and states that don't. There has also been cases of somebody freaking out and grabbing the bailiffs gun, and like Grav said Judges armed. I use to go with a woman who worked at a woodworking outfit in Lancaster County and she said they were building bulletproof Judges benches. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-20-2020, 07:40 AM	#383
Big Sarge Werepandas - lurking in your shadows Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In the Deep South Posts: 3,408	Apologies, I thought the thread had drifted to a generalized statement. BTW, many of our judges are armed and some wear kevlar vests. I don't remember any of our judges in my part of the state being attacked physically, but we had an extremely famous case where a housekeeper was convicted of stealing a judge's nail clippings and hair to use in a voodoo ritual against him. She got a felony conviction. Sorry for the thread drift. __________________ Give a man a match, & he'll be warm for 20 seconds. But toss that man a white phosphorus grenade and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

01-20-2020, 07:46 AM	#384
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Thread drift is high art. I want more on the voodoo track! __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

01-20-2020, 09:11 AM	#385
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Right, tread drift takes us to the most interesting places. Nail clippings and hair is petty theft, not a felony, must have been for the voodoo. Maybe for attempted voodoo... with intent. Yeah, that's real interesting, any links to newspaper articles or anything?. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-20-2020, 10:08 AM	#386
Big Sarge Werepandas - lurking in your shadows Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In the Deep South Posts: 3,408	Apologies guys, I got the details twisted. It was 2 brothers convicted of conspiracy to commit murder. They tried to get a lock of hair and a picture for the voodoo ritual. One brother got 10 years and the other got 5 years. The AP story link has the post conviction details https://apnews.com/b40ef45f4220dd17a8840eecee80f2fb __________________ Give a man a match, & he'll be warm for 20 seconds. But toss that man a white phosphorus grenade and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

01-20-2020, 11:29 AM	#388
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	I've had that experience here entering the courthouse. I got a receipt and the knife went in a ziploc baggie presumably to keep the knife and the receipt together. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

01-21-2020, 06:38 AM	#390
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	The price of stupidity can be high. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

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