PETA Recap/Summary - Page 5

Troubleshooter · 08-11-2004, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by marichiko

Sure, PM me with your vegetarian "propaganda." I know I'll be happier with myself if I quit the stuff again!

Why would you go back to grazing if you had to give it up for health reasons?

Has your metabolism shifted?

slang · 08-12-2004, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by garnet

....I have a wealth of vegetarian propaganda at my findertips...

[confused] Is that.......could it be.......what the....HUMOR!?[/confused]

slang · 08-12-2004, 02:52 AM

11) If PETA does launch a “plant rights” campaign, will it include weeds? If so, does that mean that your members will have to quit smoking weed?

15) Would you be offended if I mowed my lawn? I love this one....

16) Do PETA members eat animal crackers?

From the article Wolf listed.

wolf · 08-12-2004, 02:33 AM

Somebody else has covered this ground.

And they responded

Trilby · 08-11-2004, 01:33 PM

oh, Girl, I am soooo proud of you! You're gonna make it after all!

wolf · 08-12-2004, 01:06 PM

The question I've yet to see answered ... I don't remember whether I heard this here or elsewhere ...

Vegetarians, and particularly vegans go on and on about not harming animals, not using animals, etc ... yet how do they justify farming and food production methods that result in the deaths of lotsa little critters, like slower and more stupid fieldmice (Rats of NIMH, anyone?), squirrels, etc. that get gnashed and run over by the combine at harvest time?

Cyber Wolf · 08-12-2004, 01:16 PM

I had posed that same question but it was lost in The Crash. Farmers create habitats and ecosystems with their fields, prime homes for critters, where they build nests and burrows, and most small critters are year-round baby producers so at any given time there could be hundreds/thousands of families in, say, a field of wheat. If they're there come harvest day, there could be lots of little ghosts rising behind the reaping machine.

jinx · 08-12-2004, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

yet how do they justify farming and food production methods that result in the deaths of lotsa little critters,

I don't think they do justify it, anymore than they would justify killing a squirrel that runs in front of their vehicle and can't be avoided. Falls under the "unfortunately, shit happens" category. I don't think PETA members should be expected to levitate harmlessly above the earth and slowly starve to death just because they take an ethical position against intentional killing/injuring of animals.
I also don't think they should spout off about the human health aspect of eating animals when clearly their agenda is about ethics. It seems almost unethical to me...

wolf · 08-12-2004, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx

I don't think PETA members should be expected to levitate harmlessly above the earth and slowly starve to death just because they take an ethical position against intentional killing/injuring of animals.

Jains do, kinda. I think they are on the wacky side too, but they do go a lot further in terms of "living their beliefs" than anyone from PETA ever would, IMHO.

Troubleshooter · 08-12-2004, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jinx

I don't think PETA members should be expected to levitate harmlessly above the earth and slowly starve to death

Speak for yourself.

Elspode · 08-12-2004, 03:38 PM

Don't all PETA members have to maintain a hand-planted and organically grown garden in order to support their moral dietary habits? Aren't mass-production food corporations inherently evil, too?

garnet · 08-12-2004, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Elspode

Don't all PETA members have to maintain a hand-planted and organically grown garden in order to support their moral dietary habits? Aren't mass-production food corporations inherently evil, too?

Nope. You don't even have to be vegetarian to work at PETA (although no animal products are allowed on the premises). They want you to do what you can to help. It's great if you can live a totally vegan lifestyle, and they encourage it. If you can give up eating meat but not wearing leather, they view it as being better than nothing. It's not an all-or-nothing argument.

garnet · 08-12-2004, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

The question I've yet to see answered ... I don't remember whether I heard this here or elsewhere ...

Vegetarians, and particularly vegans go on and on about not harming animals, not using animals, etc ... yet how do they justify farming and food production methods that result in the deaths of lotsa little critters, like slower and more stupid fieldmice (Rats of NIMH, anyone?), squirrels, etc. that get gnashed and run over by the combine at harvest time?

You're right, some animals are injured or killed through farming. There's absolutely no way around that. But there is a way around brutally slaughtering millions of animals everday--by choosing not to eat them. If a boat is sinking, and you know you can't save everybody, should you give up and let everyone die? NO, you do as much as you can to help.

Let the vegetarian insults begin!

wolf · 08-12-2004, 01:17 PM

I knew I heard that argument somewhere ...

Carbonated_Brains · 08-12-2004, 04:22 PM

I heard the only meat they're allowed to eat is HUMAN BABY FLESH

08-12-2004, 02:33 AM	#4
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Somebody else has covered this ground. And they responded __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

08-12-2004, 01:06 PM	#6
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	The question I've yet to see answered ... I don't remember whether I heard this here or elsewhere ... Vegetarians, and particularly vegans go on and on about not harming animals, not using animals, etc ... yet how do they justify farming and food production methods that result in the deaths of lotsa little critters, like slower and more stupid fieldmice (Rats of NIMH, anyone?), squirrels, etc. that get gnashed and run over by the combine at harvest time? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

08-12-2004, 01:16 PM	#7
Cyber Wolf As stable as a ring of PU-239 Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: On a huge rock covered in water, highly advanced moss and 7 billion parasites Posts: 1,264	I had posed that same question but it was lost in The Crash. Farmers create habitats and ecosystems with their fields, prime homes for critters, where they build nests and burrows, and most small critters are year-round baby producers so at any given time there could be hundreds/thousands of families in, say, a field of wheat. If they're there come harvest day, there could be lots of little ghosts rising behind the reaping machine. __________________ "I don't see what's so triffic about creating people as people and then getting' upset 'cos they act like people." ~Adam Young, Good Omens "I don't see why it matters what is written. Not when it's about people. It can always be crossed out." ~Adam Young, Good Omens

08-12-2004, 03:38 PM	#11
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	Don't all PETA members have to maintain a hand-planted and organically grown garden in order to support their moral dietary habits? Aren't mass-production food corporations inherently evil, too? __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

08-12-2004, 01:17 PM	#14
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	I knew I heard that argument somewhere ... __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

08-12-2004, 02:52 AM	#3
slang St Petersburg, Florida Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,423	11) If PETA does launch a “plant rights” campaign, will it include weeds? If so, does that mean that your members will have to quit smoking weed? 15) Would you be offended if I mowed my lawn? I love this one.... 16) Do PETA members eat animal crackers? From the article Wolf listed.

08-11-2004, 01:33 PM	#5
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	oh, Girl, I am soooo proud of you! You're gonna make it after all!

08-12-2004, 04:22 PM	#15
Carbonated_Brains Does it show up here when I type? Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Between the smoky layers of a prosciutto sandwich! Posts: 355	I heard the only meat they're allowed to eat is HUMAN BABY FLESH

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