critter diseases

[wolf]

Originally Posted by garnet

I've never heard such a thing--no legitimate vet would EVER deny you that. If your vet doesn't want you to be with your pet when it is euthanized, they are doing something that they don't want you to see. I would be very suspicious of that, and if I were you, I'd find a new vet.

Many vets are very, very good at dealing with their patients, but don't have as much skill in dealing with their mommies and daddies.

Or he could have had a really, really bad experience with an owner under such circumstances.

[Cyber Wolf]

Originally Posted by Brigliadore

Its kinda sad that people can only take home ashes because some people really wanted to bury the dog under its favorite tree. Ashes just aren't quite the same.

They could put the ashes in a nice burial urn and bury the dog under the tree that way. I've got neighbors in my apartment building who once lived in a house with a yard; they had cremation done and buried in an urn so they could take the cat, in this case, with them when they moved. They didn't like the idea of someone else digging in the yard for whatever reason, finding the urn and throwing it away...or throwing the ashes out and keeping the urn.

[garnet]

Originally Posted by jane_says

Garnet - yes, I think snapping an animal's neck, as you so poetically put it, is more humane than letting an animal suffer.

Did I say you should let the animal suffer?

Like I said, according to the HSUS (and PETA, too, by the way) the ONLY acceptable way to euthanize an animal is by lethal injection. Snapping an animal's neck, is, according to any animal organization, a CRUEL and unacceptable method of euthanasia. In some places you could actually be charged with cruelty to animals by doing it.

It really frustrates me how many people state that they love their pets so much yet they are too cheap or too lazy to bother taking them to a competent vet for proper treatment. If you can't afford or have no interest in providing proper veterinary care for your pets, you shouldn't have pets in the first place. You'll spend $50 at the Red Lobster for dinner without thinking twice about it, but you think that's waste to spend on an animal's euthanasia. Bizarre.

Originally Posted by jane_says

I have a feeling I'm getting into more than I should, discussing animal issues with a PETA employee

Yeah, you probably are getting in over your head, because you obviously don't seem to know very much about veterinary care and human methods of euthanasia.

[jane_says]

By saying the only proper thing to do is take an animal elsewhere to be euthanized, in my area, you are most certainly saying it should be allowed to suffer. Did you read any of what I said? About working for our humane society, and taking a very long time to get any response? Furthermore, since when did the HSUS and PETA become sole arbiters of decency and kindness? Oh wait! They haven't. Now I remember.

And for your information, I have never spent $50 at Red Lobster, because I have never eaten there. I don't eat at chain restaurants. I will thank you to keep your silly generalizations to yourself. You have no idea what my priorities are. If I could keep an animal alive and healthy through veterinary care, I would. But paying to have a hamster euthanized, when it will die very shortly anyway, is ridiculous.

Anyway, as a PETA employee, shouldn't you be railing against people keeping pets at all, rather than for medical intervention? As for being in over my head, well, you know what they say about opinions.

This thread has been hijacked beyond recognition, and out of respect to the OP, I'm backing out of it. Again, sorry to hear about the hamster.

[dar512]

Originally Posted by garnet

Yeah, you probably are getting in over your head, because you obviously don't seem to know very much about veterinary care and human methods of euthanasia.

Wow, garnet. That was positively abrasive and obnoxious.

Tell the truth. You're originally from NYC aren't you?

[wolf]

Originally Posted by garnet

Yeah, you probably are getting in over your head, because you obviously don't seem to know very much about veterinary care and human methods of euthanasia.

I know many things about human euthanasia.

I could do a seminar ...

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by garnet

Like I said, according to the HSUS (and PETA, too, by the way) the ONLY acceptable way to euthanize an animal is by lethal injection. Snapping an animal's neck, is, according to any animal organization, a CRUEL and unacceptable method of euthanasia. In some places you could actually be charged with cruelty to animals by doing it.

This kind of rant is exactly what turns people off to PETA.

[garnet]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

This kind of rant is exactly what turns people off to PETA.

Awww Bruce, that hurts my feelings...I'm crying. And I doubt PETA really cares about how people like you feel about them.

[garnet]

Originally Posted by jane_says

I have never spent $50 at Red Lobster, because I have never eaten there. I don't eat at chain restaurants. I will thank you to keep your silly generalizations to yourself.

Calm down, there Jane. A little defensive about that, no? I bettin' you've spent more than a few dollars at the ol' Red Lobster....

Originally Posted by jane_says

You have no idea what my priorities are. If I could keep an animal alive and healthy through veterinary care, I would. But paying to have a hamster euthanized, when it will die very shortly anyway, is ridiculous..

Actually, your priorities are pretty clear: you don't care that your pets suffer, especially if that pet is "just" a hamster that only cost $4.

Originally Posted by jane_says

Anyway, as a PETA employee, shouldn't you be railing against people keeping pets at all,..

Actually, if you would take the time to educate yourself, PETA doesn't rail against having pets. I have pets, as does almost everyone who works here--animals that have been rescued.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by garnet

Awww Bruce, that hurts my feelings...I'm crying. And I doubt PETA really cares about how people like you feel about them.

Bruce is a pretty open minded individual, when you write people like him off, you doom your organization to failure.

[garnet]

Originally Posted by glatt

Bruce is a pretty open minded individual, when you write people like him off, you doom your organization to failure.

Yeah, Bruce was real open minded when he referred to PETA employees as "fucking assholes."

Don't flatter yourselves that you will single-handedly be responsible for the "doom" of PETA. PETA is growing everyday. I membership rolls are getting bigger, and we are hiring more staff to cover all the needs. Is your ego really that big that you think that a website like the cellar is going to influence anything? How many people post here regularly? About 15. And I'm guessin' there's good reason for that.

[jane_says]

PETA doesn't rail against having pets. I have pets, as does nearly everyone who works here.

PETA disagrees.

[jane_says]

Oh, and I forgot.

Bruce is right. You're a fucking asshole.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by garnet

Awww Bruce, that hurts my feelings...I'm crying. And I doubt PETA really cares about how people like you feel about them.

But that doesn't stop them from asking for my money, repeatedly.

[garnet]

Originally Posted by jane_says

Oh, and I forgot.

Bruce is right. You're a fucking asshole.

Yeah, that's real mature.