Abortion Debate

[OnyxCougar]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

The five-year under-the-skin Norplant gets pretty close.

Negative. Got pregnant with the second child on Norplant.

[elf]

Originally Posted by jinx

Does Norplant give you cancer after a few years like bc pills? Call me immoral all you want, I'd rather have an abortion.

Doesn't <i>living</i> generally give you cancer after a few years. . . ? I don't know the statistics on it, but I personally feel it's less traumatic on your body than an abortion.

I may do the Norplant (or Depo) thing soonish. I'll let you know if I start sprouting toumors and stuff. More than likely, the worst side effect will be that it'll make me moody.

[elf]

Originally Posted by OnyxCougar

Negative. Got pregnant with the second child on Norplant.

D'you think they'll let me have both Norplant AND Depo-provera?

[jinx]

Originally Posted by elf

Doesn't living generally give you cancer after a few years. . . ? I don't know the statistics on it, but I personally feel it's less traumatic on your body than an abortion.

Go for it elf, if you're ok with it - just don't assume everyone is.
I don't agree that just living gives you cancer, and I'm not one who would rather "enjoy" life by trashing my body. I enjoy my life becuase my body is healthy. I hope to keep it that way as long as possible.

[elf]

Just being cynical again, don't mind me. If I had a little more patience<small> (and smarts)</small>, I would probably be in the same boat as you.

[Undertoad]

Originally Posted by jinx

Does Norplant give you cancer after a few years like bc pills? Call me immoral all you want, I'd rather have an abortion.

Yes it does. If a woman doesn't give birth she has a higher incidence of cancer.

[Troubleshooter]

Originally Posted by OnyxCougar

Negative. Got pregnant with the second child on Norplant.

You don't count as a statistical sample. 99.99% means somebody is going to catch every now and again. Two of my three children are purported to be BC kids.

[wolf]

Several of my friends have what they call "Robitussin babies."

They were on the pill, it had been working properly, and became ineffective in the face of the common cold and Robitussin DM.

[jinx]

Originally Posted by elf

If I had a little more patience<small> (and smarts)</small>,

Don't forget the neurosis, that's key.

[jinx]

Originally Posted by wolf

Several of my friends have what they call "Robitussin babies."

I have a tequila baby, but I guess that's not really the same thing...

[xoxoxoBruce]

Actually, the result is the same.

[garnet]

Originally Posted by elf

D'you think they'll let me have both Norplant AND Depo-provera?

I have a better idea: see if the hubby will get a vasectomy. My boyfriend is "fixed"--the vasectomy has got to be one of the greatest inventions known to mankind. At least for the girls.

[Iggy]

Originally Posted by wolf

I am all for adoption.

And usually it works out quite well.

However, it really is a "pig in a poke" situation.

A lot of my patients have either ceded parental rights or have had them taken away.

Many of these are babies that would be considered "high premium" on the adoption market ... cute, white, blue-eyed bundles of joy.

With a family history of mental illness and/or extreme substance abuse from both parents.

I see a lot of frustrated parents whose story starts with "Well, I adopted Timmy at birth, and it turns out that his mom was ... "

I'm a newbie, but I thought I would contribute.
The reason adoption lines are so long is because not all of the babies put up for adoption are "high premuim." Even requesting that you want a boy or a girl can cause a major delay in the adoption process. Not to mention if the child is not of the "preferred" race. And then there is the fact that the child, like wolf said, will have underlying issues because of the adoption and/or the parents habits. Also, if the woman planning on giving up the baby for adoption changes her mind and keeps the baby, there is also the possibility for her to change her mind again and put the child/infant up for adoption. But once he/she is no longer a newborn, suddenly, no one wants him/her. At least, that is the way I understand it. All I ever hear about is how we need more people to adopt children, but everone wants newborns.

And on abortion, just because someone believes that abortion is wrong, does not mean they should force their opinions on others. I agree with stricter rules on late term abortions, but that is not my choice to make. And if it was illegal, then women would just be doing it in a back alley instead. The way I see it, it someone doesn't agree with abortion, then they shouldn't do it. But they shouldn't keep others from doing it.

I'm being redundent, sorry. I will post more when I am more awake.

[OnyxCougar]

Originally Posted by elf

D'you think they'll let me have both Norplant AND Depo-provera?

Norplant IS depo. Instead of getting it once every three months, its always in there.

And over half the women on Norplant have continuous breakthrough bleeding. You've ALWAYS got to wear at least a pantyliner.

[Troubleshooter]

Do the patches have the same effect?