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Originally Posted by mrnoodle
On the other side of the spectrum, you have someone planning a terrorist act, calling bin Laden in the Caribbean to get the go-code, and we're unable to do anything about it because, by gosh, it's ILLEGAL to listen in on a phone conversation.
Not likely.
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What is even worse - when terrorists were successful, it was made possible because Federal agents were halted by George Jr people from doing their job. Need I quote what was YELLED at those Chicago agents? "YOU WILL NOT OPEN A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION!" Since we all first learn the facts before making conclusions, we all saw those FBI agents specifically say this on the network news. Oh? Some people have opinions and yet never learned these facts?
I should not have to do this if you have learned recent history: when a president did his job - read his PDBs, and with fewer powers, then terrorism was halted.
It is a damning fact. This nation's #1 anti-terror investigator died when? Since it was posted here multiple times, they you know the answer. John O'Neill was driven from government service by the George Jr administration. Knowing where a next attack might be coming, John O'Neill took a job as head of security at the WTC. John O'Neill died in his first week on the job during the WTC attack. John O'Neill died in his first week on the job during the WTC attack. John O'Neill died in his first week on the job during the WTC attack. How many times need we cite examples of why terrorism was permitted - and why no extraordinary powers were required?
How many hundreds of examples need I provide before you admit why the George Jr administration did things that permitted terrorism. And why can George Jr be trusted with extraordinary powers when the problem was only the George Jr administration?
The solution is competent leadership. 85% of all problems are directly traceable to top management. Federal agents had plenty of power and information to stop domestic terrorism. When George Jr failed to read his PDB, then people died. When Clinton read his PDBs, then Millennium attacks all over the world were halted.
George Jr uses fear to hype "MORE POWER". That was the Tim Allen joke on Home Improvement. Was "MORE POWER" the solution? Of course not. The solution was a smarter human who spent less time in the hospital emergency room. You're expected to learn from the jokes - such as "No one expects a Spanish Inquisition". George Jr does not need more power. We need more intelligence in the Oval office. Someone who knows how to read PDBs.
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... people will die if it happens.
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Domestic terrorism happened when the president had a PDB warning of the attack and did nothing. And when the president, on 11 September, did so little as to never once authorize American fighter planes to go hot - to defend American cities. That too should make you angry. On 11 September, the president nor anyone on his senior staff did anything to defend America. You don't agree? Show me. I would love to see it.