I'm taking up a collection...

[Kagen4o4]

youre great mari

[xoxoxoBruce]

Mari comes from an old military family. Once in a while we have to play taps to settle her down.

[noviceathome]

Shit, Happy M, I'll fess up to that just for the hell of it. Get wise noobs. This may appear to be an ethereal gathering but the rules of polite society apply just as strongly here as any physical forum.(Maybe even more so if you wanna keep running with the herd). You go bursting into any unsuspecting group with polarising opinions and you're an instant footnote.
And that's all I have to say about that.

[SteveBsjb]

Originally Posted by noviceathome

Shit, Happy M, I'll fess up to that just for the hell of it. Get wise noobs. This may appear to be an ethereal gathering but the rules of polite society apply just as strongly here as any physical forum.(Maybe even more so if you wanna keep running with the herd). You go bursting into any unsuspecting group with polarising opinions and you're an instant footnote.
And that's all I have to say about that.

What if I don't want to run with the herd? May I still post here?

[SteveBsjb]

Oh, sorry, you're right, I didn't intentionally ignore your question, Kit. I'm just juggling internet and work issues at the moment. No real aggressive politics involved for me. Everyday is a new one here. What I mean is, I'm not here to ruin your fun, or attack your board, which is now my board too. I have no subversive agenda.

My questions:

If a thread isn't interesting to you (the universal "you") then don't respond and watch it sink. Who does it bother?

Can you explain to me how "vBulliten" wasn't designed to support a more frenetic style of posting and multiple threads? I'm not being sarcastic. Is it a bandwith concern, or space on a server. I'm not really computer tech-savy, I don't even get what a "bandwidth" problem is.

Do the owners get upset, due to TECHNICAL reasons, if a person posts here 40 times a day? Or is it just the users that see it as an interruption of their natural flow?

I can adapt, probably will. Although I did say I won't change, truly I do not refuse to. Thinking back, I meant the spirit of how I post, my style is not to post nonsense spam BS posts all day. As you can see, I respond very well to those that want to know about me. But why should I adapt fully? And don't think I'm being rude (I hope I don't have to keep typing that) but, what would happen if I keep posting the things that interest me in the fashion I like to post them? What if I'm sort of sarcastic, but good-intentioned? What if my style of posting has merits not yet realized by the good people of the cellar?

I am not going to come in here and be sugar sweet to everyone. I'll just be myself. And I know, I may not make friends here. I'm here to post and get feedback, international feedback, humorous feedback, good news, bad news, etc.

I appreciate your clear well-worded post, Kit. Sorry if you or other people think I'm inconsiderate.

[Kitsune]

Originally Posted by SteveBsjb

Can you explain to me how "vBulliten" wasn't designed to support a more frenetic style of posting and multiple threads?

I've frequented Wakachan-driven boards and they work along the democratic model. Someone posts something, it gets bumped if it is supported ("saged" if it isn't), and threads can see their birth and death in less than a day. If you aren't around to participate, you'll completely miss what was being discussed, which is considered normal. Posts are quoted not by content, but by post number and are responded to as such.

vB and BB encourage people to take the time to piece through long posts, quote pieces of them, and reply to them. Posts are infrequent enough that replies are notified by e-mail to each user that is "subscribed" to the thread and nothing is "weighted" based upon interest or activity. Topics do get "bumped", but only in the sense that they filter to the top of what is more like an RSS-feed of recent activity instead of urgent or popular topics getting higher priority. In fact, it is common on vB board for topics from weeks, months, even several years ago will be ressurected and re-enter into recent activity. This isn't because they were weighted as more popular by system activity, but because content was deemed by the users to be interesting and worth retrieving. We have a lot of people, myself included, that might not visit this system in several days because of travel or job/school related pressure and we don't feel [extremely] overwhelmed when we return because it the style of post history on vB gives you time to catch up with discussions.

Originally Posted by SteveBsjb

I can adapt, probably will.

You've already changed your reply-style to discuss this topic with me, so I don't see why you'll have any trouble at all adapting.

Originally Posted by SteveBsjb

But why should I adapt fully? And don't think I'm being rude (I hope I don't have to keep typing that) but, what would happen if I keep posting the things that interest me in the fashion I like to post them?

You don't have to adapt fully, but the way the board keeps track of what is "recent" (date and time driven) versus what is "interesting" (strictly user driven) ends up making posts issued in rapid succession viewed more as spam than discussion. Usually if a new user posts a new thread instead of first attempting to respond to existing ones, the entries are automatically wiped from the system because they get flagged as robots. This isn't to say anyone's posts are actual spam, but they appear that way if they're short and fast enough.

Originally Posted by SteveBsjb

What if I'm sort of sarcastic, but good-intentioned?

Then trust me, you'll fit in really, really well here.

Originally Posted by SteveBsjb

I appreciate your clear well-worded post, Kit. Sorry if you or other people think I'm inconsiderate.

Thanks! I hope you don't write off the community immediately, either, for their reactions. In recent years on vB style boards, spam and post-attacks have become common and are difficult to deal with at an administrative level. If the very first thing you did on here was join in and began slamming people for their political stance using inflammatory language in decent-sized/timed replies, you'd be cheered as a hero by at least half of the people here, but even the most well intentioned, quick, short posts set off enough warning flags that people become very suspicious.

It's just a matter of what people are used to and the methodology the system lends itself to. Nothing big.

[SteveBsjb]

Originally Posted by SteveBsjb

Do the owners get upset, due to TECHNICAL reasons, if a person posts here 40 times a day?

Not trying to be a nudge, but I still don't understand the answer to the above question. Is there a techie reason why it's bad to post multiple threads here at The Cellar?

[Kitsune]

Originally Posted by SteveBsjb

Not trying to be a nudge, but I still don't understand the answer to the above question. Is there a techie reason why it's bad to post multiple threads here at The Cellar?

You can post 40 times/day with no problem, as long as they're mostly replies. Creating many new threads in a day doesn't give weight to anything, floods the main boards, and pushes out active conversation. There is no techie reason why you can't, but it tends to look like spam on a vB board.

I find it actually pretty difficult to explain, but I guess I could say that it would be like browsing through the stacks at the library and finding slips of paper with text scratched on them scattered amoungst the novels. There are a lot of threads, here, that invite short replies (go check out Guess What It Is) but the boards, themselves, get difficult to sift through with lots of new threads. The threads are intended to carry over many days with the conversation going on inside rather than conversation being carried on in the form of new threads.

...and now I'm just trying to sound like I actually know what I'm talking about, so I'm going to shut up, slink off to find coffee, and maybe try my hand at working while in the office for once.

Work? Damn! This feels strange!

[LabRat]

Personally, not to long ago I was wondering when we'd get some new blood. It seemed like it had been awhile. (at least in the threads I frequent) If I wanted more of the EXACT same, I would never bother to refresh. Seems like the noobs (everytime i see that i read boobs)have settled down and will fit in nicely.

I have GOT to get back to work. When the boss is away...the Rat posts away.

[SteveBsjb]

Thank you Kit. You're my kind of message boardie, or cellarite, or dwellar.

Lab, I appreciate that thought, even if I wasn't the new blood you were looking for. I know, I know... I'm really not that sensitive about this whole thing. We'll laugh about it someday. Anyway, thanks for being the first person on this board that I've seen post the word "boob". It's one of my favorite words. Well actually the plural version of it is.

::wonders if there's a boob forum here:: ::insert appropriate smiley here::

[wolf]

Just look for threads that include "NSFW" in the headline.

[Kitsune]

Originally Posted by wolf

Just look for threads that include "NSFW" in the headline.

Methinks we need to bring back the "This IS porn" thread, again.

[SteveDallas]

Originally Posted by Kitsune

Methinks we need to bring back the "This IS porn" thread, again.

Yeah, or earlier less-successful attempts.

[wolf]

It's called the signal to noise ratio.

[Flint]

quick question @all: won't "bad" threads drop off the page automatically, if ignored? (I mean, not posted on)