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Old 04-18-2006, 02:14 PM   #31
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Do you understand what I mean?
Do you understand what I mean?
Do you understand what I mean?
Do you understand what I mean?
Do you understand what I mean?
Do you understand what I mean?
Quite frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.:p
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Old 04-18-2006, 02:27 PM   #32
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Old 04-18-2006, 03:21 PM   #33
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*wonders what the guy with the big ears, is doing with that guy from David Lynches "Eraserhead"*
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Old 04-18-2006, 03:53 PM   #34
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for what it's worth I am pro-smiley as long as they are used to actually more fully articulate a point, as the subtile body language is beyond my capabilities to capture using text alone.
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Old 04-18-2006, 04:02 PM   #35
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Yes, cowhead, I agree that there is a need for communicating these nuances. Although, I'm not convinced that smilies are the best solution.
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Old 04-18-2006, 04:20 PM   #36
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I shouldn't make the clone thread: "SIMILIES pro vs con"

Should I?

What about Silmarillion prose versus Khan?

(really geek it up!)
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Old 04-18-2006, 04:30 PM   #37
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I've a stomach ache. I blame it on this non-thread.

Deconstruction. That's what they are all about. Or, quasi-deconstruction.
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Old 04-18-2006, 05:44 PM   #38
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Quote from Flint's post #24:
Originally Posted by keryx
There's nothing wrong with using smilies.

I tried to present this beyond the level of wrong or bad.


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please get that stick out of your ass

"First remove the beam out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother's eye"


Was there some problem with the length of my post that you couldn't post the quotes from it completely? I know how you like all your posts taken in their entirety to keep the context and nuance relevant.

I said:There's nothing wrong with using smilies. They are just another toy to use in the sandbox.

Which means that like most things they are a tool to be used good or ill by the person that uses them. They in themselves have no good/evil or right/wrong.

I said:If you don't like them, don't use them, but please get that stick out of your ass.

Which means I like smilies, I think they are fun. I don't think anyone should be obliged to like them or use them, but I think that someone who does protest so loudly regarding them has lost a sense of fun.

What a pity.
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Old 04-18-2006, 07:00 PM   #39
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@keryx: I think full quotes are not necesary. Anyone can scroll up and read your post in it's entirity. I don't shorten quotes to change their meaning, I do it to specify which part I am responding to. If I had a comment on the entirity of your post I would have quoted it in full. I read, and understood your post, and not expressly acknowledging certain parts does not constitue a disagreement on my part with the parts I didn't quote. In other words, when I agree with you, there is no need to comment. A useful discussion arrives at an agreement by hashing out the points where a disagreement is percieved. It's a back-and-forth thing.

And again, what you are referring to with the suggestive phrase "protests so loudly" is that I have strong feelings against smilies or the use thereof, which I don't, as evidenced by the fact that I never said I did. If I had said that, you can quote me.

See, that's a joke. Get it? I'm turning the thing you got huffy about into a fun thing. As it turns out, fun and humor are subjective things. Different people will not experience them in the same way. And since we cannot read each other's minds theough the internet, nobody can determine whether another person is having fun or not, without projecting their own point-of-view on the other person.
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Old 04-19-2006, 06:29 AM   #40
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And since we cannot read each other's minds theough the internet, nobody can determine whether another person is having fun or not, without projecting their own point-of-view on the other person.
Hense the use of smilies so there can be no misunderstanding as just to how something that's written is to be taken.

PS. Your joke went over my head...:p
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Old 04-19-2006, 10:04 AM   #41
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@DiscoFever: You caught the funnier concept, though (smilies as a solution to the dilemma).
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There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there
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expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever
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Old 04-20-2006, 01:02 AM   #42
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I did? Well bugger me...
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:32 AM   #43
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I can't imagine being convinced that italics are of less communicative value than animated cartoon faces. Am I to believe that every person posting the same SMILIE has experienced an identical emotion, or, that they have the desire to express an identical emotion? I find SMILIES to be counter-productive to substantive communication.
That's nice.

I find you to be both:
  • counter-productive to substantive communication, and
  • one of these.

And that is why vBulletin has an ignore function. You can join the other AGers there. Goodbye.
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:36 AM   #44
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Old 04-20-2006, 12:48 PM   #45
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Once again, I find it curious that people feel the need to announce that they are ignoring you. To the person being ingnored, nothing actually happens, it's a total non-event. Even funnier, though, is when the people who make such a big fuss about letting you know that they are ignoring you continue to respond to your posts. Something doesn't add up there, does it?

I guess I'm supposed to care what Maui Nick thinks? I should feel bad about myself, as a person, because Maui Nick doesn't like me? Becuase Maui Nick doesn't wish to participate in a substantive conversation, and wishes instead to be insulting and add nothing to the discussion, I should take that as a statement on me? Very illogical.

Remember, Maui Nick, you can never ever address me again, or I will know that you didn't really ignore me.
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expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever
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