Sexual history doesn't matter? Who would marry a porn star?

[Elspode]

Remind me again *who* decided how I am supposed to use *my* parts? Don't *I* get to decide? They are, after all, mine.

I'm guessing it wasn't Nature, since my parts do, indeed, fit in places where they were, according to you, never intended to go. So...continue to enlighten me as to why sodomy is bad. And reproduction doesn't count, because I don't engage in sex for reproduction anymore.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by bmwmcaw

I can't even think of one species of plant or animal on this wide earth that engages in homosexual acts on a regular base, if at all.

Most plants are bisexual.

[Undertoad]

Evolutionary biologists speculate that there may have been an evolutionary advantage to tribes with a certain number of adults disinclined to breed. This could have regulated the rate of reproduction, provided a different ratio of children to adults, provided a different atmosphere and culture. It also would have provided a natural lead for the person to decide on the color scheme of the cave, what should be painted on the walls, making sure that the skulls of the dead are lined up nicely in order of height, etc.

This goes well with the recent finding that there are more gays amongst the population of younger brothers of brothers. In a tribe with many male births, there is less need for more breeding competition amongst the males.

It really hurts your argument, bm, to draw it to your own conclusion that maybe there will arrive a time when there won't be a huge number of guys chasing the hot poon. It is to laugh. And if they all do catch teh ghey, what's your problem? Are you worried they'll convert you too? Are you worried they'll all want to fuck you up the ass? Doesn't it just mean there'll be more women left over, willing to be dominated by you?

[Elspode]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and take a wild guess that Evolutionary arguments are probably disallowed with our pal, much the same as religious arguments are disallowed by my thinking.

The Central Park Zoo had a real problem when they ended-up with a bunch of gay penguins. It was very cute.

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Evolutionary biologists speculate that there may have been an evolutionary advantage to tribes with a certain number of adults disinclined to breed. This could have regulated the rate of reproduction, provided a different ratio of children to adults, provided a different atmosphere and culture. It also would have provided a natural lead for the person to decide on the color scheme of the cave, what should be painted on the walls, making sure that the skulls of the dead are lined up nicely in order of height, etc.

This goes well with the recent finding that there are more gays amongst the population of younger brothers of brothers. In a tribe with many male births, there is less need for more breeding competition amongst the males.

It really hurts your argument, bm, to draw it to your own conclusion that maybe there will arrive a time when there won't be a huge number of guys chasing the hot poon. It is to laugh. And if they all do catch teh ghey, what's your problem? Are you worried they'll convert you too? Are you worried they'll all want to fuck you up the ass? Doesn't it just mean there'll be more women left over, willing to be dominated by you?

There is what we believe and then there is what we know. Theories, speculation, and hypothesis are well and fine but you need only look through your own eyes at the world around you. I am not an evolutionary biologist nor was I a witness to 2 million years of planetary social and biological evolution. But what I can see and can prove right now is that life is perpetuated by life forms within a species of the opposite sex. Evolutionary biology is one of many scientific disciplines that study this area.

You want to massage the issues around the edges, well, have a ball. It doesn't change the natural order that exist on this planet right here, right now.


Your statement regarding my so called fears of homosexuals and theories of repression is nothing more than a signal of retreat from the conversation. I’ve said it before, playing the homophobic, race card, or women hater is a control tactic deployed when a more thoughtful redress on the topic can’t be made. I am thoroughly not impressed. It’s precisely these kinds of retorts that many of the “gang” can’t seem to maintain some sense of self-control over themselves. When you can’t respond intelligently you resort to insults and disparaging comments.

You asked me whatI based my postion on and what an abomination was and I told you. Reread you response and tell me if your comments enlarged or diminished the conversation.

[Stormieweather]

Originally Posted by bmwmcaw

~snip~

BTW, sodomy is an abomination because that’s not how those parts are supposed to be used.

~snip~

The logical assumption to be made from that statement would be that you are also against oral sex aka cunninglus and fellatio aka going down on or a blowjob? Because I doubt that is the primary function of the mouth and tongue.

Look at these people! They suck each other! They eat each other's saliva and dirt! — Tsonga people of southern Africa on the European practice of kissing, 1927

Bah! What about kissing??? Is that another misuse of body parts? I love kissing, have I been committing an abomination every time I kiss my partner ? Cuz you know, in some cultures and in some historic times...kissing has been either considered highly disgusting or acceptable among people of the same gender.

So who decides what is what here? If our society changes its views on what is acceptable over time, and different cultures views certain behaviors in a totally different light, then who is the ultimate abiter of what is right and what is wrong for you or for me?

Stormie

All of those things are sodomy in Biblical language.



New Study Links Homophobia with Homosexual Arousal

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Most plants are bisexual.

Most still require cross pollination. That’s why the produce nectar to attract the birds and the bees. Bisexual is a mischaracterization. They have (plants) both male and female organs, so to speak, but still require the opposite gender to reproduce. The male parts do hump other male parts in a plant.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by bmwmcaw

But what I can see and can prove right now is that life is perpetuated by life forms within a species of the opposite sex. Evolutionary biology is one of many scientific disciplines that study this area.

I can see and prove right now that life is also perpetuated by creatures that never reproduce, if they assist ones that do in any way. A gay caveman can hunt and gather for the tribe, and protect and care for the children of the tribe. And if the youngest of a set of brothers is gay, he can expect that his genes will be passed on by his older brothers anyway.

Originally Posted by Stormieweather

The logical assumption to be made from that statement would be that you are also against oral sex aka cunninglus and fellatio aka going down on or a blowjob? Because I doubt that is the primary function of the mouth and tongue.



Bah! What about kissing??? Is that another misuse of body parts? I love kissing, have I been committing an abomination every time I kiss my partner ? Cuz you know, in some cultures and in some historic times...kissing has been either considered highly disgusting or acceptable among people of the same gender.

So who decides what is what here? If our society changes its views on what is acceptable over time, and different cultures views certain behaviors in a totally different light, then who is the ultimate abiter of what is right and what is wrong for you or for me?

Stormie

This kind of issue sprawl has absolutely no value in moving the conversation. If you want to engage in a conversation then making silly and non-sense points isn't going to be productive. My point wasn't just confined to the function of the part but placed in the context of what we witness in the natural world. Making ridiculous issues out of a reasonable conversation is as immature as you can get. I not even going to address those idiotic remarks.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by bmwmcaw

Most still require cross pollination. That’s why the produce nectar to attract the birds and the bees.

The birds and bees decrease the percentage of masturbation. But they still have the hot gay plant sex.

They have (plants) both male and female organs, so to speak, but still require the opposite gender to reproduce. The male parts do hump other male parts in a plant.

You didn't say "to reproduce", you said "homosexual acts on a regular basis", and plants qualify. Or they would, if they had any intent. But hey, you brought them up.

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

I can see and prove right now that life is also perpetuated by creatures that never reproduce, if they assist ones that do in any way. A gay caveman can hunt and gather for the tribe, and protect and care for the children of the tribe. And if the youngest of a set of brothers is gay, he can expect that his genes will be passed on by his older brothers anyway.

What kind of far fetched point are you making here. Somebody still has to have babies for that imaginary gay caveman to role play, and isn't having babies the real point in perpetuation.

Take a nap and come back with something a little more thoughful.

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

The birds and bees decrease the percentage of masturbation. But they still have the hot gay plant sex.You didn't say "to reproduce", you said "homosexual acts on a regular basis", and plants qualify. Or they would, if they had any intent. But hey, you brought them up.

What am I on trial here?

[Undertoad]

Your statement regarding my so called fears of homosexuals and theories of repression is nothing more than a signal of retreat from the conversation.

That's OK. I have to retreat. Your response opened with nothing less than a complete denial of science as a source for proof, or even information, so we have no common ground to start from. I'm left with no other approach than to point out that, obviously, with your deep concern on the topic, chances are good that you want a big black dick in your ass. The bigger and blacker the better, I'm guessing. But don't blame me, I'm only the messenger.