Democrats Take the House

Happy Monkey · 11-07-2006, 11:11 PM

And George Allen will probably have to request a recount.

We need a "Snoopy Dance" smilie.

Ibby · 11-08-2006, 01:14 AM

w00t!

Undertoad · 11-08-2006, 07:23 AM

Now that the balance of power in the Senate is one single seat, it is time to revisit how stupid the netroots kidz were to try to take Lieberman down. This is chess, think a few moves ahead, you morons.

Flint · 11-08-2006, 08:30 AM

In a truly shocking and unexpected development, Politicians Sweep Midterm Elections.

Elspode · 11-08-2006, 09:09 AM

I think that Americans have finally decided that the pendulum has swung far enough to the right, and now it is time to start it moving back to the middle.

What the hell is a netroot?

Undertoad · 11-08-2006, 10:22 AM

dailykos.com and moveon.org, roughly, Wikipedia has more.

Elspode · 11-08-2006, 10:32 AM

Ahh...so why did the netroots kidz want to scuttle Lieberman?

Undertoad · 11-08-2006, 10:35 AM

The stated reason is that he was pro-war and too close to the Rs. The real reason is that they experience a huge buildup of power, due to their communities and Iraq, and there *needed* to be a candidate they could use it on. They smelled blood in the water in the Spring, enraged by current events, and could not resist trying to take someone down, even though it was the primaries and a huge, gigantic, massive strategic blunder.

I see HM is active on the thread, surely he'll have a word on this.

yesman065 · 11-08-2006, 10:37 AM

It is really sad that we cannot collectively agree to do anything without a party affiliation. I am a registered independent because I hate having what I say based upon my "party" How bout we all just decide who will do the best for our country as a whole and lose the us/they mentality. It is really counterproductive.

Flint · 11-08-2006, 10:39 AM

I agree, yesman065. It's a counter-productive caricature of reality.

Undertoad · 11-08-2006, 10:42 AM

BTW, patting myself on the back, I said all this before in post #9 in this thread and also noted the split Senate consideration.

Hippikos · 11-08-2006, 10:45 AM

The Arrogance of Power

THERE ARE TWO AMERICAS. One is the America of Lincoln and Adlai Stevenson; the other is the America of Teddy Roosevelt and the modern superpatriots. One is generous and humane, the other narrowly egotistical; one is self-critical, the other self-righteous; one is sensible, the other romantic; one is good-humored, the other solemn; one is inquiring, the other pontificating; one is moderate, the other filled with passionate intensity; one is judicious and the other arrogant in the use of great power.

The Two Americas ~Sen. J.William Fulbright.

Happy Monkey · 11-08-2006, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elspode

Ahh...so why did the netroots kidz want to scuttle Lieberman?

He is pro war, voted for cloture on Alito, voted for Gonzalez, he wants to allow hospitals to refuse emergency contraception to rape victims (they can always find another hospital), regularly supports immunizing corporations from lawsuits, he's a big censorship fan, and he voted against habeas corpus in Gitmo. He's the go-to guy when Hannity wants to get a Democrat to criticize the Democrats.

There are lots of reasons.

Urbane Guerrilla · 11-08-2006, 12:41 PM

While I would have been happier to see the socialist-Democrats repudiated again, it's still politics as usual -- seldom far, in general, from the Republic's center. Everything else is mostly grandstanding on the one part and brand loyalty on the other.

The Democratic Representatives now have to behave in a responsible manner. They will have the responsibility, like it or not, of winning the war, and winning the war better than the Republicans.

I don't think the chances of that are good. The Democrats have no war-winning plan, but a near-gravitational, going-over-the-falls tropism for finding some substitute, any substitute, for victory. The Jackasses don't know there isn't one. Folly maintained as an article of faith since the Truman days is folly still.

Habeas corpus in GITMO? Who would you apply it to, Padilla? Habeas corpus is not appropriate for what are in effect POWs. No, HM, there's no reason to extend the rights of American citizens to not-American citizens; they are at war with us -- at war with you too, dummy. Remember, these guys are crazed anti-Americans: we must exhaust their enthusiasm for their sins. I have no problem with having these nuts die of old age in sunny, sunbaked even at night, Guantanamo. (I've been there. Lots of sun, lots of green iguanas.) This may take a while; they've all put on about twenty pounds since being incarcerated, so inhumanely do we treat them. One rather expansive fellow went from around 220 pounds to over 410, though I believe he's been dieting back down since that peak. Slow metabolism and endomorphic?

glatt · 11-08-2006, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

[The Democrats] will have the responsibility, like it or not, of winning the war, and winning the war better than the Republicans.

I didn't realize the Democrats won the White House and are now the Commander in Chief.

They will have control over the purse strings. They can also investigate things like secret prisons. That's about it. They won't control the military.

11-07-2006, 11:11 PM	#1
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11-08-2006, 08:30 AM	#4
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	In a truly shocking and unexpected development, Politicians Sweep Midterm Elections. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

11-08-2006, 09:09 AM	#5
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	I think that Americans have finally decided that the pendulum has swung far enough to the right, and now it is time to start it moving back to the middle. What the hell is a netroot? __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

11-08-2006, 10:32 AM	#7
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	Ahh...so why did the netroots kidz want to scuttle Lieberman? __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

11-08-2006, 07:23 AM	#3
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Now that the balance of power in the Senate is one single seat, it is time to revisit how stupid the netroots kidz were to try to take Lieberman down. This is chess, think a few moves ahead, you morons.

11-08-2006, 10:22 AM	#6
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	dailykos.com and moveon.org, roughly, Wikipedia has more.

11-08-2006, 10:35 AM	#8
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	The stated reason is that he was pro-war and too close to the Rs. The real reason is that they experience a huge buildup of power, due to their communities and Iraq, and there needed to be a candidate they could use it on. They smelled blood in the water in the Spring, enraged by current events, and could not resist trying to take someone down, even though it was the primaries and a huge, gigantic, massive strategic blunder. I see HM is active on the thread, surely he'll have a word on this.

11-08-2006, 10:37 AM	#9
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	It is really sad that we cannot collectively agree to do anything without a party affiliation. I am a registered independent because I hate having what I say based upon my "party" How bout we all just decide who will do the best for our country as a whole and lose the us/they mentality. It is really counterproductive.

11-08-2006, 10:39 AM	#10
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	I agree, yesman065. It's a counter-productive caricature of reality. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

11-08-2006, 10:42 AM	#11
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	BTW, patting myself on the back, I said all this before in post #9 in this thread and also noted the split Senate consideration.

11-08-2006, 10:45 AM	#12
Hippikos Flocci Non Facio Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In The Line Of Fire Posts: 571	The Arrogance of Power THERE ARE TWO AMERICAS. One is the America of Lincoln and Adlai Stevenson; the other is the America of Teddy Roosevelt and the modern superpatriots. One is generous and humane, the other narrowly egotistical; one is self-critical, the other self-righteous; one is sensible, the other romantic; one is good-humored, the other solemn; one is inquiring, the other pontificating; one is moderate, the other filled with passionate intensity; one is judicious and the other arrogant in the use of great power. The Two Americas ~Sen. J.William Fulbright. __________________ Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it.

11-08-2006, 12:41 PM	#14
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	While I would have been happier to see the socialist-Democrats repudiated again, it's still politics as usual -- seldom far, in general, from the Republic's center. Everything else is mostly grandstanding on the one part and brand loyalty on the other. The Democratic Representatives now have to behave in a responsible manner. They will have the responsibility, like it or not, of winning the war, and winning the war better than the Republicans. I don't think the chances of that are good. The Democrats have no war-winning plan, but a near-gravitational, going-over-the-falls tropism for finding some substitute, any substitute, for victory. The Jackasses don't know there isn't one. Folly maintained as an article of faith since the Truman days is folly still. Habeas corpus in GITMO? Who would you apply it to, Padilla? Habeas corpus is not appropriate for what are in effect POWs. No, HM, there's no reason to extend the rights of American citizens to not-American citizens; they are at war with us -- at war with you too, dummy. Remember, these guys are crazed anti-Americans: we must exhaust their enthusiasm for their sins. I have no problem with having these nuts die of old age in sunny, sunbaked even at night, Guantanamo. (I've been there. Lots of sun, lots of green iguanas.) This may take a while; they've all put on about twenty pounds since being incarcerated, so inhumanely do we treat them. One rather expansive fellow went from around 220 pounds to over 410, though I believe he's been dieting back down since that peak. Slow metabolism and endomorphic? __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

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