Battle to Legalize Polygamy - Page 3

DanaC · 11-26-2006, 02:34 PM

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The funny thing is that my comment wasn't even protest, I just said that the real area of contention isn't can you or can't you do it, but whether you get the financial windfalls.

By windfalls, do you mean the ones that hetero couples routinely get? Is your problem that people get windfalls by being married, or the extending of such windfalls to incorporate homosexual couples?

Aliantha · 11-26-2006, 05:55 PM

Dana...I think he's simply homophobic or at the very least - if it makes him feel better to think of it this way - anti gay.

His arguments about windfalls etc are simply his way of rationalizing his emotional attachment to the discussion.

If gay couples get married they should definitely be entitled to the same 'windfalls' as hetro couples. Anyone can see that.

It's not about the money for people like him. It's about exclusion.

Aliantha · 11-26-2006, 05:56 PM

As to the idea of having two husbands. Does that mean I'd have twice as much spending money? If so, where do I sign up?

BigV · 11-27-2006, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff

hmmm... cut back on conversation by 50%, always another guy around when yer building something, draw straws to cover the wife's companies' holiday parties, 50% reduction in crayola check off boxes... we may be on to something.

Paint Your Wagon.

Madman · 11-27-2006, 03:05 PM

Polygamy? Legalize? I guess, for some, it would be okay. Me? No way! Married, raised two daughters, I KNOW what these ladies are like. I lived with them - forever! God! Please! Don't! I can't handle another female in my life. I'll be good! I promise!

Incest? Yuk!!! Any way, shape, form, consenting or not!

Age difference? We don't live very long. A 30 year age gap between couples is quite a gap (Harold and Maude minus a decade or two). But, if we could live to be 1000. Now that would be different. 30 years would be like a fart in the wind. I could be 685 and my wife could be 430 - like robbing the cradle eh'?

Funny thread. I like it.

SeleneRati · 11-27-2006, 05:05 PM

Having had a certain amount of experience (2 years) of a functional triad (2 men, 1 me), I found that two men get along much better than two women do.

I wouldn't mind another "wife" in the house, as long as she and I had some ground rules...mainly, I'm the boss

Spexxvet · 11-27-2006, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SeleneRati

Having had a certain amount of experience (2 years) of a functional triad (2 men, 1 me), ..

Wow, how did that work?

Ibby · 11-27-2006, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Madman

Incest? Yuk!!! Any way, shape, form, consenting or not!

Yes, but is 'yuck' any grounds for illegality?

DanaC · 11-27-2006, 08:24 PM

Maybe not. But genetic deformities in ensuing offspring might be.

9th Engineer · 11-27-2006, 08:31 PM

then we should arrest mothers who drink/smoke/do drugs while pregnant on assault charges? All can cause defects in the baby after all...

Iggy · 11-27-2006, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer

I don't think large groups containing multiple men and women together would ever take off because that's already been tried in numerous 'free love' sects. These always seem to degenerate into abuse of most members, with a few powerful men and women using the others essentially as slaves. With media coverage and application of law these would be forced to disband fairly quickly I think.

Actually, multiple men and women together is how I think it works best. My SO and I have discussed this thoroughly. If he is allowed another girlfriend, then I also can have another mate as well. We know that the two of us will be the main focus, but as long as we can handle more relationships, what is wrong with that? We have dappled in relationships with others, but we have yet to find others who share the same views as us and so we do not have outside girlfriends/boyfriends.

As I said before, what helps the relationship to survive is the ebb and flow of the power. We strive to be equal. There will be times when he gets the power and times when I have it. But for the most part we are equals and stand the right to veto any prospective mate. So if he wanted to date another girl that I just couldn't stand, I could veto his ability to date her. We are honest and faithful to each other unless there is explicit permission given. He can do the same with me.

Spexxvet · 11-27-2006, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

Maybe not. But genetic deformities in ensuing offspring might be.

So same sex incest is ok, because there'll be no offspring. And it's ok to fuck your mom if you use a rubber. Got it.

Clodfobble · 11-27-2006, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 9th Engineer

then we should arrest mothers who drink/smoke/do drugs while pregnant on assault charges? All can cause defects in the baby after all...

In the case of drugs, there's already legal precedent for it.

kerosene · 11-27-2006, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Iggy

Actually, multiple men and women together is how I think it works best. My SO and I have discussed this thoroughly. If he is allowed another girlfriend, then I also can have another mate as well. We know that the two of us will be the main focus, but as long as we can handle more relationships, what is wrong with that? We have dappled in relationships with others, but we have yet to find others who share the same views as us and so we do not have outside girlfriends/boyfriends.

As I said before, what helps the relationship to survive is the ebb and flow of the power. We strive to be equal. There will be times when he gets the power and times when I have it. But for the most part we are equals and stand the right to veto any prospective mate. So if he wanted to date another girl that I just couldn't stand, I could veto his ability to date her. We are honest and faithful to each other unless there is explicit permission given. He can do the same with me.

As my man and I read your post we were thinking "hmm...sounds familiar." Sounds like you two have similar views to ours.

Tonchi · 11-28-2006, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibram

I suggest reading Under The Banner of Heaven: A Story of Violent Faith by John Krakauer (or however the fuck it's spelled). Very interesting, very insightful look at Fundamentalist Mormons.

I have read this book twice, plus several about the Salamander Letter scandal, Magic and the Mormon World View, Ashamed of Joseph, When Mormons Call, and most importantly, Mormons and the History of the American West. I have also read the Book of Mormon and a book I got at the Deseret Book Store where a professor at Brigham Young believes he proves that ancient Maya symbolism reflects the presence of the people Joseph Smith invented. I forget the names of about 5 other books I have. All this started when I learned my uncle had finally caved in and joined the Mormon Church, I knew what was coming our way and wanted to be prepared. To be sure, the Mormons are not allowed to own or read books that are not "faith promoting", which makes me, a non-Mormon, the most knowledgeable person in the family concerning this cult.

11-26-2006, 05:55 PM	#32
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Dana...I think he's simply homophobic or at the very least - if it makes him feel better to think of it this way - anti gay. His arguments about windfalls etc are simply his way of rationalizing his emotional attachment to the discussion. If gay couples get married they should definitely be entitled to the same 'windfalls' as hetro couples. Anyone can see that. It's not about the money for people like him. It's about exclusion. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-26-2006, 05:56 PM	#33
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	As to the idea of having two husbands. Does that mean I'd have twice as much spending money? If so, where do I sign up? __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

11-27-2006, 05:05 PM	#36
SeleneRati Come Spoon With Me Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 48	Having had a certain amount of experience (2 years) of a functional triad (2 men, 1 me), I found that two men get along much better than two women do. I wouldn't mind another "wife" in the house, as long as she and I had some ground rules...mainly, I'm the boss __________________ "If you limit your choices only to what seems possible or reasonable, you disconnect yourself from what you truly want, and all that is left is a compromise." - Robert Fritz

11-27-2006, 08:31 PM	#40
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	then we should arrest mothers who drink/smoke/do drugs while pregnant on assault charges? All can cause defects in the baby after all... __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

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11-27-2006, 03:05 PM	#35
Madman has left the building. Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 455	Polygamy? Legalize? I guess, for some, it would be okay. Me? No way! Married, raised two daughters, I KNOW what these ladies are like. I lived with them - forever! God! Please! Don't! I can't handle another female in my life. I'll be good! I promise! Incest? Yuk!!! Any way, shape, form, consenting or not! Age difference? We don't live very long. A 30 year age gap between couples is quite a gap (Harold and Maude minus a decade or two). But, if we could live to be 1000. Now that would be different. 30 years would be like a fart in the wind. I could be 685 and my wife could be 430 - like robbing the cradle eh'? Funny thread. I like it.

11-27-2006, 08:24 PM	#39
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Maybe not. But genetic deformities in ensuing offspring might be.

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