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Old 11-28-2006, 01:06 AM   #1
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You may not have noticed. Troops would never publically contradict the president; say "Mission Accomplished" is flawed and wrong. Retired Generals were doing that talk many years ago when "Mission Accomplished" was justified using wacko conservative political righteousness. Some years later, every General that served in Iraq and then retired were warning of a failure we know as "Mission Accomplished". Finally, active duty troops are now talking - actually leaking. They are leaking intelligence assessments that apparently are not shared even with the Iraqi army or puppet government.

Marine Corp intelligence assessment for Anbar province last March has been updated - and leaked. Active duty troops telling you how much extremist conservatives and this president hate the troops. From the Washington Post of 28 Nov 2006:
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Anbar Picture Grows Clearer, and Bleaker
The five-page report -- written by Col. Peter Devlin, a senior and seasoned military intelligence officer with the Marine Expeditionary Force -- is marked secret, for dissemination to U.S. and allied troops in Iraq only. ... Devlin suggested that without the deployment of an additional U.S. military division -- 15,000 to 20,000 troops -- plus billions of dollars in aid to the province, "there is nothing" U.S. troops "can do to influence" the insurgency.
No decent American or president would have put American soldiers into another Vietnam. Especially when the facts were so obvious that ... well in another post are examples of how long ago a loyal administration would have seen this civil war coming: Knowing Civil War is Coming if only in The Cellar . A loyal administration would never have put troops in this situation. A loyal administration - which means not extremist conservative choosen by god - would have gone after bin Laden.

Active duty troops provide numerical estimates - tens of thousands of troops and $billions just for one of Iraq's 18 provinces. Extremist conservative's hate for the troops has become so obvious that even active duty troops must leak reality and intelligence assessments. Go big or go home? George Jr's contempt for the American soldier was expressed today. He said American troops will not pull out. Does that mean 500,000 troops? No. George Jr will do anything to American soldiers so that defeat does not occur under his watch - just like Nixon. His legacy is more important than some dead soldiers. Active duty troops are now demonstrating how much contempt this president has for the American soldier.

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Old 11-28-2006, 03:16 PM   #2
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From the NY Times of 28 Nov 2006:
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Bush to Pursue Fresh NATO Commitments
President Bush called on NATO countries Tuesday to boost their ability and willingness to battle Islamic extremism in Afghanistan and across the Middle East, ...

"We're in a long struggle against terrorists and extremists who follow a hateful ideology and seek to establish a totalitarian empire from Spain to Indonesia," Bush said in a speech at Latvia University as part of a meeting of the NATO members.
At this point, is there anyone with minimal junior high school science education that still believes those lies? In order to win the AFghan war, first, an enemy must be defined. Where is this Taliban that would attack Spain and Indonesia. It is called an insurgency. If a president cannot even define the enemy, well, this is a threat to the stability of NATO. A leader that cannot even define the enemy cannot create a strategic objective. An army without a strategic objective cannot win and has no exit strategy. What NATO country, other than one with an extremist conservative government, would deploy troops without a strategic objective? How does one define a strategic objecgtive if the enemy is not even correctly defined?
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