March 14, 2007: Excavation around house

Undertoad · 03-14-2007, 11:09 AM

I'm not selling to you developers!

Ah yes, the reluctant dweller. Here in the US, we have zoning laws to ensure that landowners can't just do whatever they want with their property, and eminent domain laws to ensure that the government can take it from them if someone more powerful wants the land for something else.

For the most part, we also have developers that don't begin work unless everything's ready. Don't want to waste the labor in digging a big hole, if you're just gonna have to fill it in again.

According to the full story, the owners have connections with the government. But now they have no connection to the world, as the excavation is 40 feet deep. Watch that first step, it's a doozy.

Griff · 03-14-2007, 11:16 AM

scratching Red China off moving to new country list

Sheldonrs · 03-14-2007, 11:34 AM

Oh well, there goes the neighborhood.

Shawnee123 · 03-14-2007, 11:42 AM

Are they renting out?

bluecuracao · 03-14-2007, 11:43 AM

Now they have to commute to work via parachute, like the guy in that car commercial.

Shawnee123 · 03-14-2007, 12:02 PM

"Hey Bobby, will you run over to Mrs McGillacuddy's and borrow a cup of sugar?"

"Sure, Mommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..."

Trilby · 03-14-2007, 12:24 PM

Arthur Dent would be proud

Elspode · 03-14-2007, 12:25 PM

"A man's home is his castle." "No man is an island." A man's home *can*, however, be an island, castle or not.

They must bury their electrical, sewer and water supplies *really* deep in China...'cause I don't see any going to that building.

I'll bet their kids behave really well. Getting kicked out of the house could be really painful.

Fill that sucker in, and you've got a pretty damn fine moat.

Pizza guys hate to deliver here.

Tomtheman5 · 03-14-2007, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheldonrs

Oh well, there goes the neighborhood.

Quite possibly the funniest (and most appropriate) thing I've ever read on Cellar!

Kitsune · 03-14-2007, 03:34 PM

Another holdout.

SPUCK · 03-14-2007, 08:20 PM

Yeah... I've seen that house! And leave it to HP to paint their name on the roof!

Armygrognard · 03-15-2007, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertoad

I'm not selling to you developers!

Ah yes, the reluctant dweller. Here in the US, we have zoning laws to ensure that landowners can't just do whatever they want with their property, and eminent domain laws to ensure that the government can take it from them if someone more powerful wants the land for something else.

For the most part, we also have developers that don't begin work unless everything's ready. Don't want to waste the labor in digging a big hole, if you're just gonna have to fill it in again.

According to the full story, the owners have connections with the government. But now they have no connection to the world, as the excavation is 40 feet deep. Watch that first step, it's a doozy.

I wouldn't be so sure about the U.S. and any laws protecting us. As we saw in the Kelso case in Connecticutt, the homeowners lost, and the Supreme Court affirmed the eminent domain action. In numerous other states, similar attempts are made every year. While I was in Georgia, the State Legislature attempted a bill that would allow the eminent domain proceedings to go on in private, and the first you, the homeowner, would hear about it is when you were served the paperwork. It was defeated/killed, fortunately.

The Supreme Court effectively said U.S. citizens have no property rights. The good news is some states are enacting laws to further protect the citizens, so some good may have come from it. Still, I don't like what that decision portends.

Trilby · 03-15-2007, 04:41 AM

Hi Armygrognard. Welcome to the cellar!

Griff · 03-15-2007, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armygrognard

The Supreme Court effectively said U.S. citizens have no property rights. The good news is some states are enacting laws to further protect the citizens, so some good may have come from it. Still, I don't like what that decision portends.

UT and I live in PA, one of the better property rights states, not ideal but not Red China either. I'm 100% with you on Kelo, the Supreme Court attacked a fundamental liberty on that one.

Griff · 03-15-2007, 11:19 AM

File this under pig finds pearl.
Democracy Now is for once offended:
Police Kill 12 Protesting Expropriation in India
In India, at least twelve people were killed after police opened fire on villagers opposing the forced expropriation of farmland in West Bengal. The Indian government wants to use the land to create a tax-free industrial park for an Indonesian chemical firm. More than five hundred police were deployed. Authorities had not tried to enter the area since January due to local opposition.

03-14-2007, 11:09 AM	#1
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	March 14, 2007: Excavation around house I'm not selling to you developers! Ah yes, the reluctant dweller. Here in the US, we have zoning laws to ensure that landowners can't just do whatever they want with their property, and eminent domain laws to ensure that the government can take it from them if someone more powerful wants the land for something else. For the most part, we also have developers that don't begin work unless everything's ready. Don't want to waste the labor in digging a big hole, if you're just gonna have to fill it in again. According to the full story, the owners have connections with the government. But now they have no connection to the world, as the excavation is 40 feet deep. Watch that first step, it's a doozy.

03-14-2007, 11:16 AM	#2
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	scratching Red China off moving to new country list __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

03-14-2007, 11:34 AM	#3
Sheldonrs Master Dwellar Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 4,412	Oh well, there goes the neighborhood. __________________ Laugh and the world laughs with you; cry and the world laughs AT you.

03-14-2007, 11:42 AM	#4
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Are they renting out? __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

03-14-2007, 12:02 PM	#6
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	"Hey Bobby, will you run over to Mrs McGillacuddy's and borrow a cup of sugar?" "Sure, Mommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..." __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

03-14-2007, 11:43 AM	#5
bluecuracao in a mood, not cupcake Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 3,034	Now they have to commute to work via parachute, like the guy in that car commercial.

03-14-2007, 12:24 PM	#7
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Arthur Dent would be proud __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

03-14-2007, 12:25 PM	#8
Elspode When Do I Get Virtual Unreality? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Raytown, Missouri Posts: 12,719	"A man's home is his castle." "No man is an island." A man's home can, however, be an island, castle or not. They must bury their electrical, sewer and water supplies really deep in China...'cause I don't see any going to that building. I'll bet their kids behave really well. Getting kicked out of the house could be really painful. Fill that sucker in, and you've got a pretty damn fine moat. Pizza guys hate to deliver here. __________________ "To those of you who are wearing ties, I think my dad would appreciate it if you took them off." - Robert Moog

03-14-2007, 03:34 PM	#10
Kitsune still eats dirt Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,031	Another holdout.

03-14-2007, 08:20 PM	#11
SPUCK Professor Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,911	Yeah... I've seen that house! And leave it to HP to paint their name on the roof!

03-15-2007, 04:41 AM	#13
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	Hi Armygrognard. Welcome to the cellar! __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

03-15-2007, 11:19 AM	#15
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	File this under pig finds pearl. Democracy Now is for once offended: Police Kill 12 Protesting Expropriation in India In India, at least twelve people were killed after police opened fire on villagers opposing the forced expropriation of farmland in West Bengal. The Indian government wants to use the land to create a tax-free industrial park for an Indonesian chemical firm. More than five hundred police were deployed. Authorities had not tried to enter the area since January due to local opposition. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

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