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Old 03-29-2007, 05:15 PM   #1
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and keep about half the world in poverty.
How do we do that? Maybe we should just send them all of our money or move to their lands and they can move into our houses.
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Old 03-29-2007, 07:50 PM   #2
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How do we do that? Maybe we should just send them all of our money or move to their lands and they can move into our houses.
Or we kept them in poverty by moving our companies over there, paying the citizens $0.50 and hour and allowing only the upper class to control the country. We rape them of their natural resources, their main source of income, and make sure our companies get the profits. We don't invest money into their economy to help it grow, we control it for our benefit, and our benefit only. Attempts by them to create a nationalist or socialist government results in US intervention to overthrow the newly elected leader and then followed by replacing him with a pro-western leader and sometimes even reinstating an oppressive monarch.

If we just stayed out of other countries affairs, don't try to control their economy, and invest to help their economies grow, I guarantee that we would be the most popular superpower this world has ever, and will ever, see.
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Old 03-29-2007, 08:00 PM   #3
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Or we kept them in poverty by moving our companies over there, paying the citizens $0.50 and hour and allowing only the upper class to control the country.
Ok, I am with you. We keep them out of poverty by not moving there and not paying them $0.50 per hour. We pay them nothing. That will keep them out of poverty. Good idea.
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Old 03-29-2007, 08:03 PM   #4
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What don't you understand about helping their economies grow?
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Old 03-29-2007, 08:11 PM   #5
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What don't you understand about helping their economies grow?
I understand. I just don't want to do it. I want our economy to grow. If thiers grows when ours grows that is good for them. If not then I feel bad for them. I do not think we should exploit them. But it is unreasonable to think that any company is going to go to a country where the average worker makes $0.50 per hour and try to pay them $5.00 per hour. That is crazy. I don't want our companies to move out of the US, but we have created a situation where it is easy and more profitable for them to do so. How do you make them not go?
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How do you make them not go?
Don't shop at wallmart.

You've got a computer, you've got Google, go to the extra trouble of finding American made stuff.

It will cost you more, you'll have to get along on six well made shirts instead of being in fashion with 24 pieces of crap. Your self esteem might be bruised by having to appear in public in last months fashion.

I know a single mother has to stretch the buck, yada, etc, blah. Oh look...I never saw that before, it's so cute and cheap......and I couldn't live without it.

Some things are not made here at all any more. 1- do you really need it? 2-do you really need that many?

That, my friend is how you make them not go, but it takes people who are willing to sacrifice for the good of others, for the good of the country.
And in case you haven't noticed, the whining motherfuckers all around you don't give a shit about anyone or anything that doesn't immediately affect them.
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Old 03-29-2007, 08:59 PM   #7
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How do you make them not go?
Don't shop at wallmart.

You've got a computer, you've got Google, go to the extra trouble of finding American made stuff.

It will cost you more, you'll have to get along on six well made shirts instead of being in fashion with 24 pieces of crap. Your self esteem might be bruised by having to appear in public in last months fashion.

I know a single mother has to stretch the buck, yada, etc, blah. Oh look...I never saw that before, it's so cute and cheap......and I couldn't live without it.

Some things are not made here at all any more. 1- do you really need it? 2-do you really need that many?

That, my friend is how you make them not go, but it takes people who are willing to sacrifice for the good of others, for the good of the country.
And in case you haven't noticed, the whining motherfuckers all around you don't give a shit about anyone or anything that doesn't immediately affect them.
I already do that, most of it anyway. I have 3 F-150's among some other stuff. There is no promise that any of it is made in America anymore. The world has become global. But if I don't shop at Walmart my neighbor may be out of a job, along with all of the other Associates. I just can't do that to my neighbor. But I do try to buy American when I can. So how come the big Corps have not come back or stopped leaving, cause you know I have been doing this for a long time?
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Ok, I am with you. We keep them out of poverty by not moving there and not paying them $0.50 per hour. We pay them nothing. That will keep them out of poverty. Good idea.
I agree, we should stay OUT of other nations and take care of our own, while enforcing our, quite liberal, immigration laws as they stand.
However, if we really do this; just see how long we remain popular.

Capitalism is the devil? Please, tell me what is better (that still rewards those who work harder, smarter and inventors... and I mean not stealing from those who save, work harder/more and smarter or those who buy land).
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I agree, we should stay OUT of other nations and take care of our own, while enforcing our, quite liberal, immigration laws as they stand.
However, if we really do this; just see how long we remain popular.

Capitalism is the devil? Please, tell me what is better (that still rewards those who work harder, smarter and inventors... and I mean not stealing from those who save, work harder/more and smarter or those who buy land).
Capitalism is better, and it has worked very well for me. I was being facetious concerning his response. If you don't build a factory and employ the population then they are most certainly less well off than had you employed them, even a $1 per hour. You cannot and should not try to establish parallels between how we employ a union worker in the US to a person in a factory in Thailand IMHO.
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