Shooting at Virginia Tech

[Spexxvet]

Comments, in no particular order:

Ibram, even your low self-esteem is normal. We all love you, just not in that way.

It seems that HIPAA regulations, civil and privacy rights interfere in some cases. Maybe there should be situations that override these policies, that come before violence starts.

Aside from my well-known opinions on guns, this guy should never had been able to get a gun.

Mental health "mechanisms" cost money. Who wants to pony up? My guess is that themercenary doesn't want his taxes increased to pay for someone else's mental healthcare - until there's a shooting spree, of course.

UT is right. In fact, if people had tried to be his friend, they might well have been his first targets - he may have percieved them as being the cause of his distress.

[Kitsune]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Aside from my well-known opinions on guns, this guy should never had been able to get a gun.

You might be correct.

On the same day as the second complaint, a person told campus police that they were concerned that Cho might be suicidal. Police did not identify the person, but two of Cho's roommates have said they communicated this concern to the resident advisers in the dorm and to campus police. Campus police spoke with Cho, and asked him to speak with a counselor. He was sent to New River Community Services, a counseling center off campus, and then was detained at St. Alban's, a mental health center near Radford, Va. Police said they don't know details of his treatment at New River, and on Wednesday they applied for a search warrant for his medical records. The officials didn't say how long he was treated there, but his roommates have said in interviews that he was gone for one to two nights. If his detention was involuntarily, it should have shown up on background checks when he bought two guns in the 10 weeks before the shooting, officials said.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Mental health "mechanisms" cost money. Who wants to pony up? My guess is that themercenary doesn't want his taxes increased to pay for someone else's mental healthcare - until there's a shooting spree, of course.

Ha, ha, ha.

Damm tootin. There is not enough money out there to fix the problems with the mental health system in the US.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Ha, ha, ha.

Damm tootin. There is not enough money out there to fix the problems with the mental health system in the US.

So, in order for you to put money in your own pocket, you're willing to sacrifice more people to this kind of mental-illness-spawned killing spree? It WILL happen again, and at a new record level.

[wolf]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

Aside from my well-known opinions on guns, this guy should never had been able to get a gun.

Given my well-known opinion on guns, this guy should never have been able to get a gun.

The information on the Cho's 2005 hospitalization is that it was involuntary.

He was not a U.S. Citizen. I went looking for the 4473 online, and the BATFE has taken it off their website, so I can't see the wording on it. I know that it asks your citizenship status, and I thought that 'no' resulted in a denial.

Please, everybody stop trying to regard this guy as normal, a geek, a nerd, whatever ... none of those things bear any relation to the kind of serious mental illness that's a play here. You will not succeed in making any kind of sense out of what he says and does.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by wolf

Given my well-known opinion on guns, this guy should never have been able to get a gun.

The information on the Cho's 2005 hospitalization is that it was involuntary.

He was not a U.S. Citizen. I went looking for the 4473 online, and the BATFE has taken it off their website, so I can't see the wording on it. I know that it asks your citizenship status, and I thought that 'no' resulted in a denial.

Please, everybody stop trying to regard this guy as normal, a geek, a nerd, whatever ... none of those things bear any relation to the kind of serious mental illness that's a play here. You will not succeed in making any kind of sense out of what he says and does.

Well said, and more importantly the TV needs to stop giving his picture, video, and manifesto so much air time. The time should be given to those who died.

[elSicomoro]

Originally Posted by wolf

Please, everybody stop trying to regard this guy as normal, a geek, a nerd, whatever ... none of those things bear any relation to the kind of serious mental illness that's a play here. You will not succeed in making any kind of sense out of what he says and does.

I'm not sure what exactly you're saying here, Wolf. If he was schizophrenic, it certainly could have been a result of environmental and/or psychosocial factors.