Immigration - Demography vs. Border Control

[elSicomoro]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I have no problem with LEGAL immigrants. If you cross the border illegally you get to turn around and go back home and take all your kids, mothers, grandmothers, etc, with you. I don't care if they were born here or not. Circumvent the process or pay the price.

That doesn't really bother me per se. Obviously, I'm concerned about it from a security standpoint. But it can't be that big of a deal because we really haven't been doing much to stop it all these years, IMO.

[Kitsune]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Maybe they just needed a work out or a warm up or something for a bigger ass kicking later. I don't know.

That sounds par for the LAPD, yeah.

[elSicomoro]

The Los Angeles Police Department: We'll treat you like a King!

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by sycamore

That doesn't really bother me per se. Obviously, I'm concerned about it from a security standpoint. But it can't be that big of a deal because we really haven't been doing much to stop it all these years, IMO.

So when the water gets up to your chin it's no big deal because you've never done anything about it in the past.

[elSicomoro]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

So when the water gets up to your chin it's no big deal because you've never done anything about it in the past.

Point taken. But the targeting of illegal immigrants seems to have gained traction only since 9/11...and I suspect that it's partially rooted in xenophobia and racism. I'm not sure illegal immigration is as big of a problem as some make it out to be. After all, the 9/11 bastards came to this country legally.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Since 9/11 the numbers of illegals has grown damn near exponentially.

[bluecuracao]

Originally Posted by Kitsune

Anyone else catch all the protecting and serving that went on at the recent immigration protests?

I hope the LAPD gets the pants sued off of them. Their actions were complete BS.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by sycamore

The Los Angeles Police Department: We'll treat you like a King!

Oh you mean this fella?????????????

The Arrest Record of Rodney King
Rodney King's criminal history played a large role in the high-speed chase that led to his arrest, in his controversial and violent arrest, and in the trials that followed. King explained his decision to flee--at a speed exceeding 110 mph--from CHP officers as resulting from a fear that his arrest for speeding would lead to a revocation of his parole and a return to prison: "I was scared of going back to prison and I just kind of thought the problem would just go away." Sergeant Stacey Koon, the supervising officer at King's arrest, concluded (correctly, it turned out) from King's "buffed out appearance" that he was most likely an ex-con who had been working out on prison weights--and assumed therefore that he was a dangerous character. Finally, it was King's criminal history that explained the decision of prosecutors to keep him off the witness stand. If King testified, defense attorneys would be allowed to present the jury with his record of arrests--a record that might influence their deliberations.
Many of King's problems with the law stem from his serious drinking problem. According to his parole officer, Tim Fowler, King "was a basically decent guy with borderline intelligence....His problem was alcoholism." (Cannon, p40.)
King's Trouble with the Law Prior to His Beating
July 27, 1987: According to a complaint filed by his wife, King beat her while she was sleeping, then dragged her outside the house and beat her again. King was charged with battery and pleaded "no contest." He was placed on probation and ordered to obtain counseling. He never got the counseling.
November 3, 1989: King, brandishing a tire iron, ordered a convenience store clerk to empty the cash register. The clerk grabbed the tire iron, causing King to fall backwards and knock over a pie rack. King swung the rack at the clerk and fled the store with $200. King was arrested and charged with assault with a deadly weapon, second-degree robbery, and intent to commit great bodily injury. In a plea agreement, King pleaded guilty to the robbery charge and the other charges were dropped. He was sentenced to two years in prison, but was paroled on December 27, 1990.
The Arrest of Rodney King on March 3, 1991
March 3, 1991: After being seen speeding on the 210 freeway by CHP officers, King led them on a chase at speeds estimated at up to 110 to 115 mph. When finally stopped, King refused requests to get into the prone position and appeared to charge one of the officers. He was beaten and arrested. King was charged with felony evading. Charges were later dropped.
King's 3/3/91 Arrest Record

King's Trouble with the Law After March 3, 1991
May 11, 1991: King was pulled over for having an excessively tinted windshield. Although King was driving without a license and his car registration had expired, King was not charged.
May 28, 1991: King picked up a transvestite prostitute in Hollywood who happened to be under surveillance by LAPD officers. King and the prostitute were observed in an alley engaging in sexual activity. When the prostitute spotted the officers, King sped away, nearly hitting one of them. King later explained that he thought the vice officers were robbers trying to kill him. No charges were filed.
June 26, 1992: King's second wife reported to police that King had hit her and she feared for her life. King was handcuffed and taken to a police station, but his wife then decided against pressing charges.
July 16, 1992: King was arrested at 1:40 A.M. for driving while intoxicated. No charges were filed.
August 21, 1993: King crashed into a wall near a downtown Los Angeles nightclub. He had a blood alcohol level of 0.19. King was charged with violating his parole and sent for sixty day to an alcohol treatment center. He was also convicted on the DUI charge and ordered to perform twenty days of community service.
May 21, 1995: King was arrested for DUI while on a trip to Pennsylvania. King failed field sobriety tests, but refused to submit to a blood test. He was tried and acquitted.
July 14, 1995: King got into an argument with his wife while he was driving, pulled off the freeway and ordered her out of the car. When she started to get out, King sped off, leaving her on the highway with a bruised arm. King was charged with assault with a deadly weapon (his car), reckless driving, spousal abuse, and hit-and-run. King was tried on all four charges, but found guilty only of hit-and-run driving.
March 3, 1999: King allegedly injured the sixteen-year-old girl that he had fathered out of wedlock when he was seventeen, as well as the girl's mother. King was arrested for injuring the woman, the girl, and for vandalizing property. King claimed that the incident was simply "a family misunderstanding."
September 29, 2001: King was arrested for indecent exposure and use of the hallucinogenic drug PCP.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by bluecuracao

I hope the LAPD gets the pants sued off of them. Their actions were complete BS.

Soooooooooooo......

While you observed the actions of the protesters at the event what did you see to make you jump to those conclusions???? I mean you were there, correct?

[bluecuracao]

I didn't jump to anything--I don't have to. I can read articles from reliable news sources.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...050201705.html

[busterb]

Originally Posted by bluecuracao

I didn't jump to anything--I don't have to. I can read articles from reliable news sources.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...050201705.html

Oxymoron?

[bluecuracao]

At least it's not the Washington Times...

[xoxoxoBruce]

Aw c'mon, there's no such thing as the Washington Times ... it's just a bad dream.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Soooooooooooo......

While you observed the actions of the protesters at the event what did you see to make you jump to those conclusions???? I mean you were there, correct?

The actions of the protesters off camera are irrelevant. Nothing justifies what happened on camera.