U.S. Can Not Detain Legal Residents Without Charge

[xoxoxoBruce]

I'm arking? What the fuck is that?

She said

I really appreciate the diversity of views on here, but railing against what foreigners choose to do with their own country rarely gets you anywhere. Least of all when your opinions simply don't connect with people of that nationality.

I pointed out that's something we put up with every fucking day.

Now what's your problem?

[tw]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Now what's your problem?

Three times I wrote and destroyed a post to ask the same question. Really, Aliantha. What is your point? You make accusations. But your posts are so short on facts and examples that only speculation can make sense. Yes, that is what many must do to reply - speculate as to what you are saying.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by tw

Three times I wrote and destroyed a post to ask the same question. Really, Aliantha. What is your point? You make accusations. But your posts are so short on facts and examples that only speculation can make sense. Yes, that is what many must do to reply - speculate as to what you are saying.

You really are an anti-American Socialist idiot aren't you?

[Aliantha]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

I'm arking? What the fuck is that?

She said I pointed out that's something we put up with every fucking day.

Now what's your problem?

To ark up means to get cranky. Pardon me for thinking you were cranky when you were using abusive language in your post. I guess you were just talking.

With regard to the rest of my post. My point was that the reason US citizens might feel criticised by posters from other nations is because it's mostly US issues which get discussed online due to the fact that it's mostly US users online. To be honest, I don't see too many people from other nations saying anything different to the sorts of things US citizens say though.

If you disagree then fine. I was just trying to suggest a reason for what seems to be a problem for you.

[Aliantha]

tw, I went back and read your post again. I didn't find anything of interest in it. I guess it's only an opinion that adding more words means there's any more substance to a post.

Thanks for your input.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

My point was that the reason US citizens might feel criticised by posters from other nations is because it's mostly US issues which get discussed online due to the fact that it's mostly US users online. To be honest, I don't see too many people from other nations saying anything different to the sorts of things US citizens say though.

Well if that was your point, then why all this "We don't do anything right, everything is our fault from the economy to the god damn weather."

Nobody (of merit) was saying that. In the meantime it is completely in the interest of every non-American to comment fully about what happens in America. Those comments are necessary and welcome. However your previous posts were so vague as to not make clear your intended point. So it is only xoxoxoBruce who is touchy about criticism that, well, we don't get enough of.

This meandering thread is starting to make some sense (made more difficult because posts are not entirely clear to whom or what post that reply is intended; too much brevity of information).

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

To ark up means to get cranky. Pardon me for thinking you were cranky when you were using abusive language in your post. I guess you were just talking.

You guess right.

With regard to the rest of my post. My point was that the reason US citizens might feel criticised by posters from other nations is because it's mostly US issues which get discussed online due to the fact that it's mostly US users online. To be honest, I don't see too many people from other nations saying anything different to the sorts of things US citizens say though.

But when an American does it to some other country, we're arrogant dicks, we don't understand other cultures. Well, it goes both ways.

If you disagree then fine. I was just trying to suggest a reason for what seems to be a problem for you.

My problem is you accusing me of dumping on SG, when I was saying I understand what she's talking about because we see it every god damn day.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

But when an American does it to some other country, we're arrogant dicks, we don't understand other cultures. Well, it goes both ways.

I have no dog in this particular hunt but brav-fucking-0 dude.
:p

[Cicero]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

How depressing that "U.S. Can Not Detain Legal Residents Without Charge" is a "major setback" for the President of the USA. Even after all that has happened, that headline is a bit painful to read.

Yeah, I have to second this.
And-If this was a "major setback" I can't imagine what their highest ideal could have been.
Ooh I've got another Kafka feeling coming on. Ick.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by tw

Nobody (of merit) was saying that. In the meantime it is completely in the interest of every non-American to comment fully about what happens in America. Those comments are necessary and welcome. However your previous posts were so vague as to not make clear your intended point. So it is only xoxoxoBruce who is touchy about criticism that, well, we don't get enough of.

Nobody of merit ? Fuck you too, tw. And stop reading shit into my posts that I didn't say.

Tell us why you think those comments from foreigners are necessary and welcome?

[Aliantha]

Bruce it would appear that we agree.

End of argument.

[tw]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Nobody of merit ? Fuck you too, tw. And stop reading shit into my posts that I didn't say.

Four letter words don't change reality - nobody of merit.

Welcome to the new Cellar where personal attacks are now acceptable and encouraged. As a result, many have left - some posting why they leave. Even tw has decided to be honest about the integrity of some posters only because personal attacks are now acceptable - actually encouraged - in the Cellar. Notice Aliantha new attitude. No reasons. Just a post based in hate. So much hate as to even agree with Bruce - just to promote animosity.

Nobody of merit. xoxoxoBruce had no reason to asssume that phrase was about him. It was even posted with no one in mind - just fishing to see who wants to fight over nothing. Bruce's guilt got the best of him. This is the new Cellar starting about when TheMercenary started posting.

[xoxoxoBruce]

You quoted what I said and then said nobody of merit said that. I think that's pretty clearly a personal attack. No guilt whatsoever, I mean what I say. Ali jumped on me for agreeing with SG, that's all.

But tw thinks the whole world has the right...no, duty, to tell us how to run our country. Not foreign policy that might affect them, the whole fucking shootin' match.
Of course tw wants to take it away from the criminals in Washington and hand it over to the criminals flooding across the border, too.... so we know where he's coming from.

[DanaC]

Topics get raised for discussion and we all discuss them. Sometimes the topics up for discussion are about events in the UK and people from both sides of the pond (as well as our antediluvian contingent) put forward their views. More often the topics concern events or issues relating to America: that's quite natural given that Americans constitute a majority within the Cellar. Consequently, we find ourselves more often discussing American issues and events and we are more often in the position of non-Americans discussing American topics than vice versa.

Given that we generally find in any thread a range of opinions on the topic in hand, this necessarily means that we will often find non-Americans commenting in a critical manner on American topics. There will also be non-Americans taking a different view and Americans being critical. The only way to stop that would be if non-Americans refrained from expressing opinions on American topics.

[Aliantha]

Ahhhh Dana? I already said that...differently. lol See post 45. It seemed that it was taken as a criticism, but oh well. I guess it's sometimes hard for different people to communicate effectively.