Men Abortion and Choice

Originally Posted by DanaC

rk, honey, I lova ya, but that's fucked up. You would seriously want a law that gives a man the right to dictate to a woman whether or not she was able to have an abortion?


From the original article on the proposed law change :

Well, fuck me sideways if I didn't tripover and land in the Handmaid's Tale. Rk, next time you call European laws on racism fascistic in nature I'm just going to laugh in your face, because this beats any Holocaust Denial laws into the ground, for me. How can you so vehemently defend the rights of people to spout racist filth and yet not seek to defend a woman's right to have the final say over her own body? And if you want to point at Fascist German and say, well hey they limited freedom of speech, I can point you to the German Maids whose job was to bear blond haired, blue eyed, master-race babies. And I can point you to the pregnant women whom the nazis experimented on.

First of all, I did not say I agree with the bill as proposed... I stated that a man who wishes to stop a abortion should be able to.
Fresh, back down when you are wrong... I do it all the time.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

That is the whole point of this entire thread. The law would force the woman to get permission from the man.

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

Nope, the law would make the man stop an abortion if he wished to take full responsibility for his child.

Here, you say that the law doesn't force the woman to get permission. When you are reminded that it, in fact, does, you say:

Originally Posted by rkzenrage

First of all, I did not say I agree with the bill as proposed... I stated that a man who wishes to stop a abortion should be able to.
Fresh, back down when you are wrong... I do it all the time.

Now might be a good time for you to do so.

But let's take your proposed alternate law into consideration:

I stated that a man who wishes to stop a abortion should be able to.

If you don't agree with the "woman needs permission" part of the law, how do you propose that this should work? How would he know? If the woman tells him that she is pregnant, she risks losing her ability to make the choice herself. It would be much safer for her to make the decision without his input, which I think most would agree would be a bad outcome.

And if the man decides that she can't have an abortion, how would the doctor know?