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Old 06-02-2008, 08:40 PM   #1
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Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
no - people with guns kill people
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Old 06-02-2008, 09:14 PM   #2
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no - people with guns kill people
That is what I said.
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Old 06-02-2008, 09:40 PM   #3
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no - people with guns kill people
People with cars, motorcycles, bombs and drugs kill people.
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:21 AM   #4
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People with cars, motorcycles, bombs and drugs kill people.
yes but all of those things (except Bombs????) were are created for a beneficial purpose - Guns are designed to kill. That is their purpose.
I am not trying to get into this again - I own several guns - all used for trap/skeet shooting & on rare occasions hunting . They are safely kept where there will be no accidents. My children do not have access to them.

I've heard all the arguments, but still have a difficult time with the "need" to make assault weapons, and to some extent hand guns, available to the general public.
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:19 AM   #5
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I've heard all the arguments, but still have a difficult time with the "need" to make assault weapons, and to some extent hand guns, available to the general public.
For me it just comes down to free choice. I have a number of "ugly guns", few people actually own true assault weapons. I collect military style arms from all eras because they are fun to shoot and collect. My main hunting rifle is a .303 Enfield. The only thing that is different is what they look like, not the round fired. To have a class 3 license, full auto rifle which technically is an assualt weapon, it is few and far between. We need to face the reality that guns are not going to go away and we need to find ways to enforce existing laws. I don't really want to restart this whole pissing contest again either. So I will just leave it at that.
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Old 06-03-2008, 01:24 PM   #6
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yes but all of those things (except Bombs????) were are created for a beneficial purpose - Guns are designed to kill. That is their purpose.
I am not trying to get into this again - I own several guns - all used for trap/skeet shooting & on rare occasions hunting . They are safely kept where there will be no accidents. My children do not have access to them.

I've heard all the arguments, but still have a difficult time with the "need" to make assault weapons, and to some extent hand guns, available to the general public.
Guns were not designed to kill. They were designed to defend and hopefully eliminate the need to kill. But even if they were designed to kill, they were designed to kill for food first and why they were designed is irrelevant. Knives were designed to cut food, but how many people have been killed by them. Should we outlaw knives? More kids are killed playing high school football than die from accidental gun shootings (There really is no such thing as an accidental gun shooting. There is only the irresponsibility of not acting safely), so should we outlaw high school football? or swimming pools? or automobiles? All of these things kill more than guns.

The fact remains that gun ownership is an individual right and no level of government has any authority whatsoever to regulate their ownership anymore than government has the authority to tell you how you must cut your hair.
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Old 06-02-2008, 10:26 PM   #7
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no - people with guns kill people
People kill. The weapon they happen to be using is irrelevant.
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