Obama--the grumblings

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

For one reason. It provides insight into how fucked up other people think. Just like when ever I read anything referenced from one of those two source. ILMAO.

But your biased sources are the very end all/be all of veracity?

LOL.

Where did you get that masters?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by TGRR

But your biased sources are the very end all/be all of veracity?

LOL.

Where did you get that masters?

Point to my biased sources in our discussions. Thanks.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Point to my biased sources in our discussions. Thanks.

http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=19328&page=6

Post 86.

[TheMercenary]

So this guy,

Craig Meister, a former newspaper reporter, studied diplomatic history at the University of Pennsylvania, worked for the State Department and in various newsgathering operations for national news outlets.

With some pretty good credentials, is less credible than a no-name poster hidden behind a forum name on The Cellar? Ok.

It was an opinion post. You remind me of someone who wants to tell the world the Bill O'Reily is a biased news reporter.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

So this guy,

Craig Meister, a former newspaper reporter, studied diplomatic history at the University of Pennsylvania, worked for the State Department and in various newsgathering operations for national news outlets.

With some pretty good credentials, is less credible than a no-name poster hidden behind a forum name on The Cellar? Ok.

It was an opinion post. You remind me of someone who wants to tell the world the Bill O'Reily is a biased news reporter.

So, you view op-ed as a worthy contribution to a debate?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by TGRR

So, you view op-ed as a worthy contribution to a debate?

Op eds from a person with known credentials always contributes to a debate of nameless faceless forum participatants like you and me. Feel free to make critical comments about the source of the reference and I will feel free to do the same about any of your sources. Isn't that why we are debating? Or are you going to now tell me how fucked up all my sources are so I can turn around and do the same to you and then we both get to put each other on ignore and the discussion ends. Or would you rather discuss the merits of the reference? You choose.

[sugarpop]

God, can we just move on from the tax cheats? Personally, I think one would be hard pressed to find ANYONE in Washington who had never flubbed their taxes in their own favor.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Op eds from a person with known credentials always contributes to a debate of nameless faceless forum participatants like you and me.

No, it does not. Op eds are opinion, which is useless in debate.

Where did you say you got your masters, again?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

God, can we just move on from the tax cheats? Personally, I think one would be hard pressed to find ANYONE in Washington who had never flubbed their taxes in their own favor.

I have no problem with it, just don't nominate them to be in charge of the IRS, ok?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by TGRR

No, it does not. Op eds are opinion, which is useless in debate.

Where did you say you got your masters, again?

So you are ready to post your political credential? Ok, go ahead.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

So you are ready to post your political credential? Ok, go ahead.

Nope. I make no claims of having a masters in political <insert need of the moment>.

I do, however, have a basic understanding of debating, and opinion is of precisely zero use. Anyone who has taken any classes in political science would know this.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by TGRR

Nope. I make no claims of having a masters in political <insert need of the moment>.

I do, however, have a basic understanding of debating, and opinion is of precisely zero use. Anyone who has taken any classes in political science would know this.

So you don't want to discuss anything with anyone who disagrees with you or challenges your thinking. Ok. Just move on and don't respond to any post you disagree with. Or you could just make personal insults about the integrity of the poster or their understanding of the issues.

In the end you will not change anyones mind and no one will change yours. Great, that settles it. Thanks. Later.

btw, I am not the one that brought up education as an issue of understanding statistics.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

So you don't want to discuss anything with anyone who disagrees with you or challenges your thinking.

That's not what I said.

Please exercise more intellectual honesty. Thanks.

[classicman]

Obama's Press List

Membership shall have its privileges.

About half-way through President Obama's press conference Monday night, he had an unscripted question of his own. "All, Chuck Todd," the President said, referring to NBC's White House correspondent. "Where's Chuck?" He had the same strange question about Fox News's Major Garrett: "Where's Major?"

The problem wasn't the lighting in the East Room. The President was running down a list of reporters preselected to ask questions. The White House had decided in advance who would be allowed to question the President and who was left out.

Presidents are free to conduct press conferences however they like, but the decision to preselect questioners is an odd one, especially for a White House famously pledged to openness. We doubt that President Bush, who was notorious for being parsimonious with follow-ups, would have gotten away with prescreening his interlocutors. Mr. Obama can more than handle his own, so our guess is that this is an attempt to discipline reporters who aren't White House favorites.

Why is Obama doing this? I really don't get it. There seems to be no need. He is smart, articulate, savvy and experienced enough.

Few accounts of Monday night's event even mentioned the curious fact that the White House had picked its speakers in advance.

We hope that omission wasn't out of fear of being left off the list the next time.

Keep that hope.

[TheMercenary]

So much for the unscripted open questions. Not that I am shocked. Bush probably did it as well. Reminds me of the famous stories about never calling on Helen "The Wicked Witch" Thomas.