Pelosi & Cheney

[glatt]

Usually by the time a member of congress is well know enough by the rest of the country to be hated, it means they have climbed their way to the top of the pile and have considerable power and influence. That power and influence makes their constituents happy and keeps them voting the guys back. The polls always say that the public hates Congress but likes their own congressman.

[classicman]

Yeh, I know, but maybe the poor reports of the stimulus package thats SHE was instrumental in getting written and passed will help to rid us of her. :shrug:

[DeepOne]

I'd like to push Cheney down the stairs of the Metropolitan Museum of Art in his wheelchair and laugh at the sickening smack his festering old shell of a body would make when it hit the bottom.
Then take a photo and hang it up at the MoMA.

Feel free to disagree but it won't change my feelings at all.
(and admit it, it paints a hilarious cartoonesque picture doesn't it)

[TheMercenary]

I'd be good with that as long as we can use Pelosi for target practice.

[sugarpop]

I really wish Cheney would stop going on TV and running his mouth. IMO, what HE is doing is making us less safe. His policies acted as a recruitment tool for al qaeda and other terrorist groups, and now he has the gall to go on TV and say Obama is making the country less safe? He has a right to his opinion, but going on TV every week and repeating that is not helping anything. It certainly isn't helping the country as a whole.

I like Nancy Pelosi, but she made the same mistake. I believe her about the CIA, but she really didn't need to be arguing about it on national TV every day for a week.

[whosonfirst]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

I really wish Cheney would stop going on TV and running his mouth. IMO, what HE is doing is making us less safe. His policies acted as a recruitment tool for al qaeda and other terrorist groups, and now he has the gall to go on TV and say Obama is making the country less safe? He has a right to his opinion, but going on TV every week and repeating that is not helping anything. It certainly isn't helping the country as a whole.

I like Nancy Pelosi, but she made the same mistake. I believe her about the CIA, but she really didn't need to be arguing about it on national TV every day for a week.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

I believe her about the CIA..

Oh please. She was doing nothing more than covering her ass. One politico with a whole freaking power trip agenda vs a whole federal agency? Come on...

[whosonfirst]

Does anyone really believe that anything we say will change radical Islam's desire to exterminate us! If anyone believes that then maybe they ought to be getting on the President's case for running around the world apologizing, freeing terrorists, putting them on trials that give them a forum, and otherwise making us look weak. The only thing terrorists respect is the barrel end of a gun

[classicman]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

I like Nancy Pelosi,

I believe her

I wonder if those two statements are connected?

Its the same as
I don't like her
I don't believe her.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by classicman

I wonder if those two statements are connected?

Its the same as
I don't like her
I don't believe her.

I believe her because the CIA is secretive in nature and trained to lie. And she is not the first person in Congress to accuse the CIA of lying. In fact, Newt himself accused them of it as well, back in the day. So have other republicans.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by whosonfirst

Does anyone really believe that anything we say will change radical Islam's desire to exterminate us! If anyone believes that then maybe they ought to be getting on the President's case for running around the world apologizing, freeing terrorists, putting them on trials that give them a forum, and otherwise making us look weak. The only thing terrorists respect is the barrel end of a gun

That is ridiculous. He is not apologizing. He is gaining their respect though, something Bush and Cheney never did. His popularity in Muslim countries is very high, because he was very bold and admitted some things that no politician has ever admitted, even though it's true. He did not just point the finger and wave it at them and accuse them of being evil.

[DanaC]

Yeah.....putting people on trial and observing due process...weakass liberals.

[sugarpop]

Ever notice it's the conservatives who got deferments and never went to war themselves who are the first to wage war or do illegal shit like torture?

[classicman]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

Ever notice it's the conservatives who got deferments and never went to war themselves...

You couldn't be more wrong, again. More conservatives go to war, fight for this country and sacrifice their lives for you to spout this kind of bullshit than liberals. Look it up. Sheesh, and to think I missed you when you were gone.

[sugarpop]

Cheney got FIVE deferments from Vietnam. Bush never went. In fact, I don't anyone in that administration who was in the inner circle and planned the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan ever went. Kerry did two tours though. Max Cleland also served, he lost his legs, yet republicans drug both of them through the mud in 2004. It was unconscionable.