Impeding changes to our Health Care system

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

It has been fun to continue to expose you as a shill of the Demoncratics and White House. So far you have provided nothing to support your positions, only the bill which most Americans see as being filled with smoke and mirrors. Good luck in Nov.

Personally I can't wait to vote the whores out.

Seriously, Merc. I honestly dont know how to discuss it further with you if you insist that your opinions and other libertarian opinions are facts and all else is just partisan bullshit.

Perhaps I will have better luck having an honest discussion with UG on the constitutional issues, but I doubt it.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

Seriously, Merc. I honestly dont know how to discuss it further with you if you insist that your opinions and other libertarian opinions are facts and all else is just partisan bullshit.

Perhaps I will have better luck having an honest discussion with UG on the constitutional issues, but I doubt it.

So anyone who does not buy your partisan Demoncratic Talking Points, many right out of the White House web site, are automatically partisan? No, there are many varried groups who disagree with the party currently in power. That does not make all those who disagree with the Dems partisan and your party not partisan. That only makes you partisan.

This party has failed the American public and lied to them to get through one sided bills that may bankrupt the future of this country does not make your party the party of the people. That is the problem when you Rham bills through the process. More people disagree with your plans for this country than there are those who agree when it comes to healthcare.

The only saving grace is that it is all reversable. That is what makes our country great. But the promises you have tried to sell on here and that your party has tried to sell to the electorate will fail when it comes to healthcare reform. And I have stated how and why numerous times, and now everyone is talking about the very same issues I have raised. Again, good luck in Nov.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Originally Posted by Redux

Seriously, Merc. I honestly don't know how to discuss it further with you . . . Perhaps I will have better luck having an honest discussion with UG on the constitutional issues, but I doubt it.

Look: objectively, neither of us believes the other is quite honest.

I see no reason for anyone of intellect to remain a Democrat. None. Why, do you suppose, might I come down to that? Would it be the Dem's penchant for economic illiteracy? Would it be their inability to win any war against totalitarians and undemocracies, which are the one sort of war we fight -- and have fought for over one hundred years? (1898, and still counting -- we shed blood for the greater liberty over the lesser liberty, every time) Would it be their socialist-leaning policies, always trending to develop a dependent class of Americans rather than Americans of the free, adult variety? Damned insidious, I must say -- and no longer veiled. Would it be their habit of policy support for dictatorships of policy inimical to the United States and humanity's interest worldwide, viz., Senator Kerry and the Sandinistas? Let these few examples stand for many blemishes upon the Dems' record. They are permanent black marks.

In furtherance of this, I should really go bother a Democrat I know, who is bright. But I haven't seen him since months before the Health Care Intrusion And Just-About Poll Tax, and I'd like to find out how he feels now that his team has done something like this.