Do you think bowling is a sport or an entertainment activity? - Page 2

Trilby · 10-29-2010, 12:37 PM

Does it count as a sport if you can do it while drinking beer and in air conditioning?

Happy Monkey · 10-29-2010, 12:44 PM

Hockey?

skysidhe · 10-29-2010, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianna

Does it count as a sport if you can do it while drinking beer and in air conditioning?

AND the jukebox playing in the background.

Spexxvet · 10-30-2010, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by glatt

That would rule out Olympic ski jumping. There is an increase in heart rate as they go down the jump, because they are excited, but they aren't panting and gasping for breath. Is Olympic ski jumping not a sport?

That's a tough one. IMHO, it is no more a sport than playing darts, golfing, or figure skating. In all three, the competitors practice their form, and the results are based on how well they execute that form, by a judge, or how close their projectile comes to it's target, or how long they jump.

There's a lot of grey area, though. Pole vaulting, long/high jump, weight lifting?

I don't know. Maybe instead of saying that the competitor has to get out of breath, I'll say that there has to be at least X amount* of physical exertion.

*purposely left vague

xoxoxoBruce · 10-30-2010, 09:54 AM

If they do it for money, wouldn't be a profession, rather than sport?

wolf · 10-30-2010, 12:09 PM

Entertainment. If you drink beer while you're doing it (company picnic softball is also not a sport), it's entertainment, not sport.

If you really want to make a determination, look at your cable lineup. Sports have their own cable channels. No 24 hour Cable Bowling Network, not a sport.

skysidhe · 10-30-2010, 01:33 PM

No, but there is poker and putting on the best poker face seems to be great sport.

btw,, why the cheesy sunglasses!

xoxoxoBruce · 10-30-2010, 06:58 PM

It's the only way to hide your lyin' eyes.

monster · 10-30-2010, 07:38 PM

"Recreation", "amusement" and "entertainment" feature highly in the Oxford Dictionary definition of sport ...and sex is the first example of sport, so I guess we're all going with our own definitions here....

For me, a sport needs to involve a reasonable amount of physical exertion. So darts wouldn't count. But it's widely televised and gambled on in the UK. (Let's face it though, you can bet on anything and there are some people who will. Bowling, borderline. )

I feel like there should be an element of competition.

Sports in my mind are related to physical fitness, so I sort of want to say if you can do it well without being physically fit, then it's not a sport. I wouldn't call gymnastics or shooting (or bowling) a sport.

And I sort of agree with the "definable goals" approach. But I disagree that they're not there in freestyle figure skating. You just need more referees. Whether they should be there is a different matter -figure skating was more fun when the judging was more subjective.

wolf · 10-30-2010, 08:46 PM

If you don't think gymnastics is a sport, you haven't seen it done right. Or there is some other British meaning for the word.

It's in the Olympics, it's a sport. So shooting is a sport, even if a fat guy can do it.

Clodfobble · 10-30-2010, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by skysidhe

btw,, why the cheesy sunglasses!

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

It's the only way to hide your lyin' eyes.

There's even more to it than just picking up an innate sense of whether someone is lying. When you see something you're interested in or excited by, your pupils dilate a bit. It's an evolutionary thing. In theory one could have enough control over their body to defeat the instict, just like some people can beat a lie detector test. But sunglasses are easier and more reliable. They have the players spread out around such a large table these days that I suspect it would be hard for another player to see something that subtle anyway.

xoxoxoBruce · 10-31-2010, 01:25 AM

Yeah, that's what I meant.

Gravdigr · 10-31-2010, 02:16 AM

Spectator sport, if you're watching the right bowlers.

SteveDallas · 10-31-2010, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf

If you don't think gymnastics is a sport, you haven't seen it done right. Or there is some other British meaning for the word.

We're arguing semantics. (Which is cool.. this is The Cellar.)

I'd never say it isn't awesome, beautiful display of athleticism, or that the gymnasts aren't highly skilled, etc.

But when it comes right down to it, the "winner" is determined by the opinions of judges on who did the best job. And for me, that means it's not a competition. Which--again for me--is an important dividing line between things lie gymnastics and figure skating on the one hand, and running or basketball or, yes, bowling, on the other.

Lamplighter · 10-31-2010, 11:34 AM

Winners determined by judges... AKA "blood sports"

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Cat shows

Divorce courts
Presidential elections

10-29-2010, 12:37 PM	#16
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xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	If they do it for money, wouldn't be a profession, rather than sport? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-30-2010, 12:09 PM	#21
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Entertainment. If you drink beer while you're doing it (company picnic softball is also not a sport), it's entertainment, not sport. If you really want to make a determination, look at your cable lineup. Sports have their own cable channels. No 24 hour Cable Bowling Network, not a sport. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

10-30-2010, 06:58 PM	#23
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	It's the only way to hide your lyin' eyes. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-30-2010, 01:33 PM	#22
skysidhe ~~Life is either a daring adventure or nothing.~~ Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 6,828	No, but there is poker and putting on the best poker face seems to be great sport. btw,, why the cheesy sunglasses!

10-30-2010, 07:38 PM	#24
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	"Recreation", "amusement" and "entertainment" feature highly in the Oxford Dictionary definition of sport ...and sex is the first example of sport, so I guess we're all going with our own definitions here.... For me, a sport needs to involve a reasonable amount of physical exertion. So darts wouldn't count. But it's widely televised and gambled on in the UK. (Let's face it though, you can bet on anything and there are some people who will. Bowling, borderline. ) I feel like there should be an element of competition. Sports in my mind are related to physical fitness, so I sort of want to say if you can do it well without being physically fit, then it's not a sport. I wouldn't call gymnastics or shooting (or bowling) a sport. And I sort of agree with the "definable goals" approach. But I disagree that they're not there in freestyle figure skating. You just need more referees. Whether they should be there is a different matter -figure skating was more fun when the judging was more subjective. __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

10-30-2010, 08:46 PM	#25
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	If you don't think gymnastics is a sport, you haven't seen it done right. Or there is some other British meaning for the word. It's in the Olympics, it's a sport. So shooting is a sport, even if a fat guy can do it. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

10-31-2010, 01:25 AM	#27
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Yeah, that's what I meant. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

10-31-2010, 02:16 AM	#28
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	Spectator sport, if you're watching the right bowlers. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

10-31-2010, 11:34 AM	#30
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	Winners determined by judges... AKA "blood sports" Dog shows Cat shows Divorce courts Presidential elections

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