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Old 09-24-2013, 05:26 PM   #10
Adak
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Adak, good on you for your post #45. Biggie called you out and you responded in kind. Much respect for that.

Without some kind of change, everyone was rolling right into Medicare/Medicaid, which to me is nationalized enough. Half of all medicine is paid for by the feds pre-O'care. People feel unprotected, while hospitals, at least around here, are like mini-Taj Mahals. Someone's getting PAID all this time...

But the system clearly wasn't working, and something had to be done. If O'care isn't sustainable we will find out soon enough, and fixes will be applied. But I personally prefer the D's let's do something as opposed to the R's let's do nothing and by the way let's get rid of the something if it's tried.
Thanks Undertoad.

One reason the system isn't working is we (US) pay so much more than any other country, for our meds. Why the hell can't we pay the same as say, Canadians, or other Western countries? Because we have an agreement to let ourselves be gouged!

Around here (California), many hospitals have gone broke and shut down. The law is that anyone showing up at the emergency entrance, must be treated, even if they're not citizens (you aren't allowed to even ask), or of course, can't pay and are uninsured.

We have lots of illegals (who can't pay), coming in for treatments. The hospitals financial losses are *staggering*. Many have closed if they are near the border with Mexico, or along the routes they travel through the county. Others have been converted to "Clinics" which do certain specialized treatments (Oncology, etc.), but have no Emergency room.

We have given exemptions to many of our largest employers, and union members are applying for them, as well. It will be very difficult to take that away, later. This is already a big concern with Obama Care.

Keeping my fingers crossed for good and quick fixes!
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