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Old 04-05-2004, 04:07 PM   #11
Radar
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If though, for a minute I follow the monetarists line, it has been well proven that targetting that relationship has been a failure and as I said, Milton Friedman himself agreed only last year.
Friedman has said trying to return America to a fiat based standard has been unsuccessful. Mostly due to the uneducated people who think "managed inflation" is a good thing. I'd take deflation if it meant we'd have something other than the worthless promises of private bankers and government to back our money and so would Mr. Friedman.

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You've chosen to live in a democratic state where clearly the majority support income tax, if they didn't they'd vote in someone who didn't.
Bullshit. People are under the impression that they have no power with regard to getting rid of it, and many think if they didn't get government handouts, they wouldn't be able to survive (see some of the Cellar posters).

It doesn't matter if every single person other than myself chooses to take my income, it doesn't give them a right to take it. Democracy does not make right. One person's rights are more important than the desires of a billion people.

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By making that choice (and noone's putting a gun to your head are they), you choose to accept that nation's laws.
Yes someone is putting a gun to my head. The government is saying they will rob me and if I resist, men with guns will come to take me away. You still have not proven any difference between being robbed by a gang of thugs and income taxation. It doesn't matter if there are 250 million people and they call their gang "government", it's still robbery and you can't escape that fact.

The following sentence is the biggest joke of all...

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Whether or not the constitution allows it or not is utterly irrelevant.
LOL

Nothing could be more relevant. I am under NO OBLIGATION WHAT-SO-EVER to follow unconstitutional laws PERIOD. (see Marbury vs. Madison).

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Don't like it move somewhere that suits you, don't try and claim it's moral to overthrow a democratically elected state because YOU don't like the laws.
I don't like it and I am not leaving. I will spill blood to return America to the Constitutional republic we started with. I mean that with all sincerity and honesty. YOU stop acting like something is morally correct just because it was voted on in a democracy.

Let's say 51% of the population has dark hair and the other 49% have light hair. In your twisted and warped view, it would be perfectly ok if the 51% voted to steal everything from the 49%, and execute them because it was a democracy and they voted on it. But the simple and inescapable truth is the 51% or even 99.9999% of the population has no authority or right to even bring it up for a vote. It's not up for discussion. Human rights are unalienable and as immutable as gravity. You can't vote on whether or not you have a right to steal someone else's property, and to suggest you can is beyond stupidity.

Hey I suppose the majority of the people on your block decided your house would look better painted with purple and orange stripes, you would go ahead and paint it that way right? Because a majority said you must. DUH!!! What if they voted and said you must shave your head? Would you comply? No. Why? Because nobody on earth (including the combined population of earth) has any authority or right to tell you what you must or must not do with your hair, or your body, or the fruits of your labor.

Don't like it? Move the hell out of MY country to somewhere that wasn't based on natural law and natural rights. But America was, so move it.

If anyone stands in the way of my plan of eliminating every single unconstitutional part of government and returning America to a Constitutional republic, I will kill them without a second thought in the defense of my rights, and the rights of other Americans. Some Americans might not want to be personally responsible for their lives, and they are free to ask someone to run it for them. I'm sure they will find no shortage of volunteers, but I will not allow anyone, no matter how great the majority...and for the record the majority of Americans DO NOT support income taxes and would gladly stop paying them today if they weren't scared of being jailed for doing so.....in other words extortion.

Go ahead, try to make me sound like a whacko because I said I'd kill in my own defense and the defense of my country. I know what you'll do before you do.

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