Who uses maps anymore? - Page 2

limey · 07-17-2015, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff

Yeah, as much as I rely on Garmin, paper maps are better for exploring an area.

This.
Plus - downloadable A-Zs!????!! I must check that out!

Sent by thought transference

footfootfoot · 07-17-2015, 12:42 PM

I like paper maps and paper books. Even more as my irritation with computers and their ilk grows by the minute.

Gravdigr · 07-17-2015, 02:51 PM

I bet we have ten pounds of paper maps of Land Between The Lakes Nat'l Recreation Area, from various sizes and iterations over the years.

MyTOPO is a great internet resource. You can view/buy all kinds of different versions of maps. Pocket size, very small area. Huge poster-size of the same very small area...Or as big an area as you want. Waterproof/not waterproof/creaseproof/pre-folded. If you're a tiny bit underhanded, you can download those customized maps, from the preview page.

glatt · 07-17-2015, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr

MyTOPO is a great internet resource.

Good tip.

monster · 07-17-2015, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

When I left for the theater yesterday, 35 minutes away, it told me I would arrive at 7:12pm and I did

yebbut, it changes its estimated ETA as you drive so as you get closer to your destination, it gets more accurate. Or was that the estimate when you left home? I take that as a challenge

BigV · 07-17-2015, 08:20 PM

Paper maps? I use them still. When ElderSon was moving from Seattle to Denver, we met as he was on his way out of town. Like most youngsters, he was quite willing to meet, since it included a free meal. And a meal for his truck, gas, oil, etc. And I asked him about his map situation... he whipped out his iPhone and I facepalmed. No. just... no. Hell no. What if you sit on it an crack it. The battery dies? No signal, etc. etc. etc. etc.

Etc.

Aaaanyhow, he got all his travel victuals AND a Rand McNally Road Atlas for the region, Western US I think. FFS, he's a Boy Scout, you know how to read a map, right? He did and does, but the *value* of a map with its vastly smaller pool of possible points of failure compared to phone based navigation was completely lost on him.

I haven't checked in with him on this topic lately, but I'll ask him the next time I see him.

As for me, I love maps, I collect them, I use them, I navigate by them, I remember places by them, and I dream of places I haven't been to *yet* by them. Yes, maps, please.

lumberjim · 07-18-2015, 11:02 AM

MOAR BAD WORD MAPS

Sundae · 07-18-2015, 11:15 AM

I'm with V on this one. I don't trust my phone. It does weird things too often.
I'd rather have a (GOOD) paper map any day; as in not one of those ones drawn on location flyers by people who have missed out half the roads. Some of us are counting them as we walk past you know.

And I'm actually a competent map-reader when I'm well.
Road maps. Not great with open land and a compass.

Then again I don't drive. Sat-nav wasn't in the sort of car I could afford, so I'd never used it in my life.

ETA - LJ's post is the only shit-map I approve of.

Undertoad · 07-18-2015, 11:47 AM

I don't think I could live in a blue state.

Gravdigr · 07-18-2015, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigV

...and I dream of places I haven't been to *yet* by them.

Man, if I had spent all the time I spent doing that, actually doing something, I might have made something of myself.

monster · 07-18-2015, 04:18 PM

if my study/office/lair/whatever was ever tidy and clean, one might find a map-based decorative theme

You can certainly see the three or four globes on top of all the stuff. Hoarder, me? Nooooooooo

Gravdigr · 07-18-2015, 04:35 PM

You just made me remember I have a poster-size world map still on my bedroom wall from when I was into shortwave radio.

monster · 07-18-2015, 05:13 PM

were all the countries discovered then?

Gravdigr · 07-18-2015, 05:38 PM

Yep. Some of them have had their name changed...

it · 07-19-2015, 05:03 PM

Funny... My son loved maps. When he was around 5yo, we used to hide things around the neighborhood, draw treasure maps and later go and find them. It was more for fun then anything, didn't really go as far as triangulating exact positions but getting the general idea of landmarks and how to use them to spot yourself. It didn't cross my mind that he was learning an outdated skill.
I wonder how much truth is there in the idea that these things can be justified by indirectly training cognitive capacities and introducing basic conceptual building blocks, even when the skills themselves rarely if ever go to good use (A.K.A. The same justification as calculus or handwriting).

07-17-2015, 12:42 PM	#17
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	I like paper maps and paper books. Even more as my irritation with computers and their ilk grows by the minute. __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

07-17-2015, 02:51 PM	#18
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	I bet we have ten pounds of paper maps of Land Between The Lakes Nat'l Recreation Area, from various sizes and iterations over the years. MyTOPO is a great internet resource. You can view/buy all kinds of different versions of maps. Pocket size, very small area. Huge poster-size of the same very small area...Or as big an area as you want. Waterproof/not waterproof/creaseproof/pre-folded. If you're a tiny bit underhanded, you can download those customized maps, from the preview page. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

07-17-2015, 08:20 PM	#21
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Paper maps? I use them still. When ElderSon was moving from Seattle to Denver, we met as he was on his way out of town. Like most youngsters, he was quite willing to meet, since it included a free meal. And a meal for his truck, gas, oil, etc. And I asked him about his map situation... he whipped out his iPhone and I facepalmed. No. just... no. Hell no. What if you sit on it an crack it. The battery dies? No signal, etc. etc. etc. etc. Etc. Aaaanyhow, he got all his travel victuals AND a Rand McNally Road Atlas for the region, Western US I think. FFS, he's a Boy Scout, you know how to read a map, right? He did and does, but the value of a map with its vastly smaller pool of possible points of failure compared to phone based navigation was completely lost on him. I haven't checked in with him on this topic lately, but I'll ask him the next time I see him. As for me, I love maps, I collect them, I use them, I navigate by them, I remember places by them, and I dream of places I haven't been to yet by them. Yes, maps, please. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

07-18-2015, 11:02 AM	#22
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	MOAR BAD WORD MAPS __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

07-18-2015, 11:15 AM	#23
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	I'm with V on this one. I don't trust my phone. It does weird things too often. I'd rather have a (GOOD) paper map any day; as in not one of those ones drawn on location flyers by people who have missed out half the roads. Some of us are counting them as we walk past you know. And I'm actually a competent map-reader when I'm well. Road maps. Not great with open land and a compass. Then again I don't drive. Sat-nav wasn't in the sort of car I could afford, so I'd never used it in my life. ETA - LJ's post is the only shit-map I approve of. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

07-18-2015, 11:47 AM	#24
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	I don't think I could live in a blue state.

07-18-2015, 04:18 PM	#26
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	if my study/office/lair/whatever was ever tidy and clean, one might find a map-based decorative theme You can certainly see the three or four globes on top of all the stuff. Hoarder, me? Nooooooooo __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

07-18-2015, 04:35 PM	#27
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	You just made me remember I have a poster-size world map still on my bedroom wall from when I was into shortwave radio. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

07-18-2015, 05:13 PM	#28
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	were all the countries discovered then? __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

07-18-2015, 05:38 PM	#29
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	Yep. Some of them have had their name changed... __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

07-19-2015, 05:03 PM	#30
it Banned Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 772	Funny... My son loved maps. When he was around 5yo, we used to hide things around the neighborhood, draw treasure maps and later go and find them. It was more for fun then anything, didn't really go as far as triangulating exact positions but getting the general idea of landmarks and how to use them to spot yourself. It didn't cross my mind that he was learning an outdated skill. I wonder how much truth is there in the idea that these things can be justified by indirectly training cognitive capacities and introducing basic conceptual building blocks, even when the skills themselves rarely if ever go to good use (A.K.A. The same justification as calculus or handwriting).

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