The absurdity of Donald Trump - Page 27

sexobon · 11-23-2018, 08:07 AM

He's just a fly by the seat of your pants kind of guy and you can do some death defying stunts when you're wearing bespoke pants.

His cabinet is his fly girls.

Undertoad · 11-23-2018, 08:40 AM

Everyone would be appalled at our own "raw feed", and so we don't tend to offer it.

And so, when someone does offer a raw feed, and one reaction is to be appalled by it and viciously attack it? That's an easy game, but there is a hypocritical element to it. And what we don't notice is that the game doesn't necessarily play out in favor of the attackers. I think that is the game theory Trump is working by.

The person who came closest to giving us a raw feed was Sundae. There are dwellars here who attacked her for the weaknesses she freely offered us. What do we make of that?

xoxoxoBruce · 11-23-2018, 09:28 AM

Raw feed will usually come back to bite you in the ass. Constructive criticism or just criticism(attack)? In print it's sometimes not easy to tell the spirit in which it's given, no matter how carefully you chose your words.

Clodfobble · 11-23-2018, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Everyone would be appalled at our own "raw feed", and so we don't tend to offer it.

And so, when someone does offer a raw feed, and one reaction is to be appalled by it and viciously attack it? That's an easy game, but there is a hypocritical element to it. And what we don't notice is that the game doesn't necessarily play out in favor of the attackers. I think that is the game theory Trump is working by.

The person who came closest to giving us a raw feed was Sundae. There are dwellars here who attacked her for the weaknesses she freely offered us. What do we make of that?

Except his staff have admitted the "rawness" is often faked, tweets written by others on his account with the intent of being inflammatory--they even bragged about putting in intentional typos for authenticity's sake.

sexobon · 11-23-2018, 09:49 AM

Some who give raw feed become successful, others fall by the wayside, the outcome depends on the perceived objective behind it.

Undertoad · 11-23-2018, 10:27 AM

Then that's exactly the game theory Trump is working by, and being outraged is playing on his game field.

Next level: watch the media with that in mind. They have been trolled. They have lost.

sexobon · 11-23-2018, 10:47 AM

Some in the media became conceited and thought they could become activists hiding behind the journalism banner. They bastardized their 1st Amendment protections without being astute enough to realize the same could be done by counter-activists. They got what they bargained for including the collateral damage to their peer group which will have to do a better job of policing their own. If they don't, they'll fall by the wayside in public opinion.

henry quirk · 11-23-2018, 12:34 PM

The American Press (ALL of it from MSNBC to FOX News; from the New York Times to the New York Post) is nuthin' but a vast propaganda machine, sumthin' largely ignored by various strains of communitarian. These various outlets lie all the damn time (out & out, and through skewin' and interpretin') and are given a pass.

Trump fights fire with fire and he's the bad guy.

Friggin' hypocrites: you got a log stuck in your eye but all you worry about is the speck in his. Your garden is nuthin' but weeds, but his -- mostly flowers -- is an affront to the eye.

DanaC · 11-23-2018, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by henry quirk

The American Press (ALL of it from MSNBC to FOX News; from the New York Times to the New York Post) is nuthin' but a vast propaganda machine, sumthin' largely ignored by various strains of communitarian. These various outlets lie all the damn time (out & out, and through skewin' and interpretin') and are given a pass.

Trump fights fire with fire and he's the bad guy.

Friggin' hypocrites: you got a log stuck in your eye but all you worry about is the speck in his. Your garden is nuthin' but weeds, but his -- mostly flowers -- is an affront to the eye.

The American press is not mandated to lead the nation.

henry quirk · 11-23-2018, 02:36 PM

No, the press is mandated to 'report' (sumthn' it hasn't done in a coon's age).

xoxoxoBruce · 11-23-2018, 10:06 PM

C'mon Henry, Trump's a lying motherfucker, over and over and over again.

sexobon · 11-23-2018, 10:49 PM

Trump fills a niche.

I'd like to fill Ivanka's niche.

It's all about the niches.

DanaC · 11-25-2018, 03:03 PM

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I didn't hire him to be honest, I hired him to wreck shit.

The trouble with wrecking shit is that the results are wholly unpredictable.

I used to have a similar attitude - though coming at it from a different angle and with a different end goal in mind...seems the only thing Trump voters share with revolutionary politics is nihilism. Burn it down and start again - shatter the body politic to rebuild it differently.

xoxoxoBruce · 11-25-2018, 03:37 PM

No, it's burn down everybody's shit but mine.

henry quirk · 11-25-2018, 04:02 PM

"The trouble with wrecking shit is that the results are wholly unpredictable."

No, that's not the 'trouble', that's the 'point'.

#

"nihilism"

I'm no nihilist.

#

"Burn it down and start again - shatter the body politic to rebuild it differently."

Yep. That's 'optimism'. The nihilist, having no hope, just accepts the garbage and wallows in it.

##

"No, it's burn down everybody's shit but mine."

No, it's 'have the right kind of shit to begin with and defend it in rough times'.

If you don't, if you can't:

11-23-2018, 09:28 AM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Raw feed will usually come back to bite you in the ass. Constructive criticism or just criticism(attack)? In print it's sometimes not easy to tell the spirit in which it's given, no matter how carefully you chose your words. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-23-2018, 02:36 PM	#10
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	"The American press is not mandated to lead the nation." No, the press is mandated to 'report' (sumthn' it hasn't done in a coon's age).

11-23-2018, 10:06 PM	#11
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	C'mon Henry, Trump's a lying motherfucker, over and over and over again. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

11-25-2018, 03:37 PM	#14
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	No, it's burn down everybody's shit but mine. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

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11-23-2018, 08:07 AM	#1
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	He's just a fly by the seat of your pants kind of guy and you can do some death defying stunts when you're wearing bespoke pants. His cabinet is his fly girls.

11-23-2018, 08:40 AM	#2
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Everyone would be appalled at our own "raw feed", and so we don't tend to offer it. And so, when someone does offer a raw feed, and one reaction is to be appalled by it and viciously attack it? That's an easy game, but there is a hypocritical element to it. And what we don't notice is that the game doesn't necessarily play out in favor of the attackers. I think that is the game theory Trump is working by. The person who came closest to giving us a raw feed was Sundae. There are dwellars here who attacked her for the weaknesses she freely offered us. What do we make of that?

11-23-2018, 09:49 AM	#5
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	Some who give raw feed become successful, others fall by the wayside, the outcome depends on the perceived objective behind it.

11-23-2018, 10:27 AM	#6
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Then that's exactly the game theory Trump is working by, and being outraged is playing on his game field. Next level: watch the media with that in mind. They have been trolled. They have lost.

11-23-2018, 10:47 AM	#7
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	Some in the media became conceited and thought they could become activists hiding behind the journalism banner. They bastardized their 1st Amendment protections without being astute enough to realize the same could be done by counter-activists. They got what they bargained for including the collateral damage to their peer group which will have to do a better job of policing their own. If they don't, they'll fall by the wayside in public opinion.

11-23-2018, 12:34 PM	#8
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	The American Press (ALL of it from MSNBC to FOX News; from the New York Times to the New York Post) is nuthin' but a vast propaganda machine, sumthin' largely ignored by various strains of communitarian. These various outlets lie all the damn time (out & out, and through skewin' and interpretin') and are given a pass. Trump fights fire with fire and he's the bad guy. Friggin' hypocrites: you got a log stuck in your eye but all you worry about is the speck in his. Your garden is nuthin' but weeds, but his -- mostly flowers -- is an affront to the eye.

11-23-2018, 10:49 PM	#12
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	Trump fills a niche. I'd like to fill Ivanka's niche. It's all about the niches.

11-25-2018, 04:02 PM	#15
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	"The trouble with wrecking shit is that the results are wholly unpredictable." No, that's not the 'trouble', that's the 'point'. # "nihilism" I'm no nihilist. # "Burn it down and start again - shatter the body politic to rebuild it differently." Yep. That's 'optimism'. The nihilist, having no hope, just accepts the garbage and wallows in it. ## "No, it's burn down everybody's shit but mine." No, it's 'have the right kind of shit to begin with and defend it in rough times'. If you don't, if you can't:

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