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Happy Monkey · 12-08-2012, 09:23 PM

Hybrid of some sort. Either a Civic (what I already had), or maybe a Prius. Prius gets better mileage, but I hate that bar through the rear window. Prius had a better trunk, but I hate that bar through the rear window.

The Honda dealer is also much more convenient.

Spexxvet · 12-10-2012, 12:42 PM

If you can afford the fuel, one of these should survive until old age

glatt · 12-10-2012, 01:36 PM

A friend just got a Ford CMax and loves it. It's a little big for a single guy, but it's flexible for hauling people or stuff. It's in the news for not getting as many MPG as they claim, but it's still a hybrid that does pretty well.

Happy Monkey · 12-10-2012, 02:12 PM

I did see a hybrid comparison article, that put the Ford Fusion on top, so I may be looking into Fords.

But the local Honda dealer is so convenient...

glatt · 12-10-2012, 02:26 PM

Read some news stories about MPG claims before you buy anything. CNET (or maybe it was Car and Driver) said that they got 35 MPG average instead of the advertised 47 for the Ford. Depends on your driving style. Not sure if some manufacturers are more honest than others. You can probably do some back of the envelope calculations based on vehicle weight and engine size.

jimhelm · 12-10-2012, 02:46 PM

You want hybrid for the gas mileage or the greenness?

The new gas powered sentra gets 35 mpg average! The Altima is 31 and thats a really nice car.

Happy Monkey · 12-10-2012, 03:33 PM

I got 40 average in real life on my Civic, and that's low for a hybrid, so I'd rather not go down from there.

BigV · 12-10-2012, 04:05 PM

glad you're ok Happy Monkey

Griff · 12-10-2012, 05:42 PM

Pete's getting 33 - 36mpg in her Subaru Impreza AWD. It seems like the hybrids need to do better...

glatt · 12-11-2012, 08:09 AM

I think the hybrids really pay off with the larger vehicles. If you can take a minivan from 20 MPG up to 35 MPG by putting a hybrid system into it, you're doing more than if you take an econobox from 35 MPG up to 50 MPG.

Over the life of a minivan that lives 200k miles, at 20 MPG, you will use 10,000 gallons. A 35 MPG hybrid minivan will use 5,714 gallons. So the hybrid minivan will save you 4,286 gallons.

Over the life of a enconobox that lives 200k miles, at 35 MPG, you will use 5,714 gallons. A 50 MPG hybrid model will use 4,000 gallons. So the hybrid econobox will save you 1,714 gallons.

The hybrid minivan's 4,286 gallons in saving is way bigger than the econobox's 1,714 gallons in savings.

infinite monkey · 12-11-2012, 08:12 AM

They had regular old Honda CRXs in the 90s that got 50. No hybrid nuttin' no 'lectric. They just did.

We're being had.

Undertoad · 12-12-2012, 11:20 AM

Hybrids need city driving to excel at what they do

In minivans, the regenerative braking is perfect for panicky mom drivers jumping on the brakes to avoid running over plastic bags in the road

infinite monkey · 12-12-2012, 11:37 AM

What is regenerative braking?

I was behind someone the other night who hit their brakes (on the interstate) every 10-20 seconds. Like, you go the speed of the car in front of you or you pass it or you let it get ahead. You don't ride their ass and have to hit the brakes every 10 seconds. And at night with all the traffic brake lights indicate to me that all traffic is slowing down...not just the asshole who can't regulate their speed.

Miles, I was behind this bozo. I hung back but saw those damn brake lights, albeit farther and farther away, for miles.

Happy Monkey · 12-12-2012, 12:00 PM

Braking charges the battery.

12-08-2012, 09:23 PM	#136
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Hybrid of some sort. Either a Civic (what I already had), or maybe a Prius. Prius gets better mileage, but I hate that bar through the rear window. Prius had a better trunk, but I hate that bar through the rear window. The Honda dealer is also much more convenient. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

12-10-2012, 12:42 PM	#137
Spexxvet Makes some feel uncomfortable Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 10,346	If you can afford the fuel, one of these should survive until old age Attached Images __________________ "I'm certainly free, nay compelled, to spread the gospel of Spex. " - xoxoxoBruce

12-10-2012, 02:12 PM	#139
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	I did see a hybrid comparison article, that put the Ford Fusion on top, so I may be looking into Fords. But the local Honda dealer is so convenient... __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

12-10-2012, 02:46 PM	#141
jimhelm a beautiful fool Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: 39.939705 Posts: 4,504	You want hybrid for the gas mileage or the greenness? The new gas powered sentra gets 35 mpg average! The Altima is 31 and thats a really nice car. __________________ There's a Shadow just behind me. Shrouding every step I take. Making every promise empty, pointing every finger at me. _tool

12-10-2012, 03:33 PM	#142
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	I got 40 average in real life on my Civic, and that's low for a hybrid, so I'd rather not go down from there. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

12-10-2012, 01:36 PM	#138
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	A friend just got a Ford CMax and loves it. It's a little big for a single guy, but it's flexible for hauling people or stuff. It's in the news for not getting as many MPG as they claim, but it's still a hybrid that does pretty well.

12-10-2012, 02:26 PM	#140
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Read some news stories about MPG claims before you buy anything. CNET (or maybe it was Car and Driver) said that they got 35 MPG average instead of the advertised 47 for the Ford. Depends on your driving style. Not sure if some manufacturers are more honest than others. You can probably do some back of the envelope calculations based on vehicle weight and engine size.

12-10-2012, 04:05 PM	#143
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	glad you're ok Happy Monkey __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

12-10-2012, 05:42 PM	#144
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Pete's getting 33 - 36mpg in her Subaru Impreza AWD. It seems like the hybrids need to do better... __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

12-11-2012, 08:09 AM	#145
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I think the hybrids really pay off with the larger vehicles. If you can take a minivan from 20 MPG up to 35 MPG by putting a hybrid system into it, you're doing more than if you take an econobox from 35 MPG up to 50 MPG. Over the life of a minivan that lives 200k miles, at 20 MPG, you will use 10,000 gallons. A 35 MPG hybrid minivan will use 5,714 gallons. So the hybrid minivan will save you 4,286 gallons. Over the life of a enconobox that lives 200k miles, at 35 MPG, you will use 5,714 gallons. A 50 MPG hybrid model will use 4,000 gallons. So the hybrid econobox will save you 1,714 gallons. The hybrid minivan's 4,286 gallons in saving is way bigger than the econobox's 1,714 gallons in savings.

12-11-2012, 08:12 AM	#146
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	They had regular old Honda CRXs in the 90s that got 50. No hybrid nuttin' no 'lectric. They just did. We're being had.

12-12-2012, 11:20 AM	#147
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Hybrids need city driving to excel at what they do In minivans, the regenerative braking is perfect for panicky mom drivers jumping on the brakes to avoid running over plastic bags in the road

12-12-2012, 11:37 AM	#148
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	What is regenerative braking? I was behind someone the other night who hit their brakes (on the interstate) every 10-20 seconds. Like, you go the speed of the car in front of you or you pass it or you let it get ahead. You don't ride their ass and have to hit the brakes every 10 seconds. And at night with all the traffic brake lights indicate to me that all traffic is slowing down...not just the asshole who can't regulate their speed. Miles, I was behind this bozo. I hung back but saw those damn brake lights, albeit farther and farther away, for miles.

12-12-2012, 12:00 PM	#149
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Braking charges the battery. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

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