Betting tips

[W.HI.P]

N.F.L Week:2
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Atlanta Falcons @ Jacksonville Jaguars(10,5)

10,5 points may seem like a lot, but in this case it looks right to me.
The Falcons bid last week was based on $$$, not that they have a team, with or without Vick, its simply a weak division.
The Jaguars lost to Tennessee at home(one of my few wins) last week despite the many turnovers. The didn't look too good.
Of course they have to win, and they should ..4-7-10-17, whats the difference?

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Indianapolis Colts(-7,0) @ Tennessee Titans

Don't take into acount last years game. The Colts were resting.
Fact is, this Colts offence should have a field day against this Par Titans defence. The Titans will score as well, but I would be suprised if they won. 7 points seems about right. I'm leaning towards the Colts, but not enough to wager on it.


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Cincinnati Bengals(7,5) @ Clevland Browns

I can't wait to see Quinn's debut in week 4 or 5.
This matchup is lop-sided, but not as much as last year.
Do not underestimate the Browns this year.


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Houston Texans @ Carolina Panthers(-7.0)

Good wins for both teams in week 1.
The Panthers will win this, and it should be more than 7 points.
There are better games further down that demand greater attention than this one.


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Green Bay Packers(-3,5) @ New York Giants

LOL
The reason the Packers are favorites is because Jacobs and Manning aren't going to play..... well, the Giants defence looked pretty bad last week. I'm not going to recommend this game, but if you need an extra bet to wager on, this would be the one...On the Giants of course!


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New Orlean Saints(-3,5)-Tampa Bay Bucs

If the Saints are gonna manage to pull off 3-4 wins this year, this would be one of them. No matter how bad this bucs offence is however, they will score against this full of holes Saints defence.
The spread looks about right, it could go either way on the spread.


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Buffalo Bills @ Pitchberg Steelers(10,5)

The Bills should have won last week as they clearly outplayed the Broncos. The steelers offence didn't look to bad last week, but this week they're facing a very good team. I would not be suprised at all if the Bills won this game, 10,5 points is insaine here.

Bet on the Bills


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San Fransisco 49ers @ St.Louis Rams(-3,5)

These 2 teams are competiting for top spot in this easy division.
I do believe the 49ers will win that race, but they may split wins.
This one would be the one the Rams would win.
As a bet the 49ers side looks better. This one is too close to call.


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Seattle Seahawks(-3,5) @ Arizona Cardinals

Arizona looked a lot better than I expected them, they would have and should have beaten the 49ers last week. The 49ers that are far better than Holmgreen's Seahawks. Leaning towards the Cardinals at home, but again, not enough to wager on it.


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Dallas Cowboys(5,5) @ Miami Dolphins

My friend(Dolphins fanatic) is gonna kill me for giving this pick, as He is most certainly sure that his team will lose. I disagree.
Yes, the Cowboys offence looked pretty good, but their defence was absolutely terrible.
And Don't be expecting the cowboys OL to be pushing this Dolphins defence back, this weeks another story.
This weak Dolphins offence should score more points this week than any other this year. I had no idea the Cowboys defence had become this bad..allowing the giants almost 500 yards without Jacobs! Imagine if he would have lasted the game!

Dolphins all the way, these cowboys are gonna have a bad year.
Like, no playoffs.

Bet on the Dolphins


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Minnesota Vikings @ Detroit Lions(-3.0)

If Minneota could stop the pass, this game would be a gimme as the Vikings are superior. If the Vikings can keep the ball and run it down their throats, the'll manage to win this as Detroit is a mediocre team.
2-0 for the lions sounds ridiculous.


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Kansas City Chiefs @ Chicago Bears(13,5)

The Bears looked fantastic last week holding LT to minus yards in the first half. The Chargers had to find magic to beat em'.
The Bears have clearly a better team than last year, if the offence can pick it up, they'll be in the NFC championship game at least.


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New York Jets @ Baltimore Ravens(-7.0)

2nd and goal from the 2 yard line, 7 points down, plenty of time on the clock, what do you do against a team that can't stop the run??
I wonder..lol .....well you certainly don't throw the ball like the Ravens did twice last week against the Bengals, what were they thinking?


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Oakland Raiders-Denver Broncos(10,5)

If you need an extra game to bet on, here's one.
The Raiders we're miss-matched last week, but thats not the case this week. The Raiders are clearly better than last year, and the Broncos, despite the additions should again end up out of the playoffs.
I can't contemplate where the 10,5 points come from.


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San Diego Chargers @ New England Patriots(-3,5)

Brady is a mediocre QB. The only reason he seems above par is because he's got 30 seconds to throw the ball on each snap against most teams. If he's gonna get sacked this year, it'll be against the greatest pass-rushing defence in the game(Chargers).
LT was stopped by the Bears, but trust me, the Patriots are not the Bears, he'll have a career day.
Easy win for the Chargers, no competition.

Bet on the Chargers!!!


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Washington Redskins @ Philadelphia Eagles(-7,5)

Easily the best bet of the week!
The Redskins are made up for their division. They're gonna beat all 3 teams in their division starting this week. My team cannot stop their offence, and my teams offence is miss-matched against this great pass defence. Westbrook is the key to moving the ball down the field, but I'm afraid he won't be enough. Another low-scoring game, so you can take the under, but most certainly take the Redskins with this point-spread as i can't see how their gonna lose this game.
i can't believe my Eagles are gonna start the year 0-2.
They should have thought about that last week.

Bet on the Redskins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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[xoxoxoBruce]

Shouldn't Kansas City be getting the 13.5 points instead of the Bears?

[Undertoad]

Has the New England cheating news affected the line at all?

[W.HI.P]

Shouldn't Kansas City be getting the 13.5 points instead of the Bears?

You must be joking... If the Bears held LT to minus yards, what do ya think they're gonna do with overpaid LJ?
And KC's defence cannot compare with SD's ....Chicago will win, its just a large spread.

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Has the New England cheating news affected the line at all?

Nah, too many people are brainwashed with the Patriots this year.
The spread of course is based more on where the money be laid rather than reality.
My clean theory on them beating the Jets last week was the fact that it was a 1pm game. Too many games at that time, money is spread around.
Although the bookies clearly lost money on that game to the masses.
The money bet on that game was merely a fraction of what will be placed on the Patriots Sunday night.
Anyway you look at this game, it belongs to the Chargers.
My theory on the Colts-Saints game was placd into effect in the Patriots Jets game.
I really hope the readers of this thread can grasp the fact that the patriots are not a superbowl contender.
Money does control this game like it or not.

The Patriots did cheat, and that sucks, but i'm sure they're not the first to do it, they simply got caught.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Hmmm, my pool is giving KC 14 points.

[W.HI.P]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Hmmm, my pool is giving KC 14 points.

Dude, I'm not going to edit and add the -.
The Bears are -13,5.
All spreads are minus.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Oh, sorry. I didn't realize the 6 spreads not marked minus should be minus also. My bad.

[W.HI.P]

How to bet:
Based on the picks:
1) Redskins over Eagles(-7,5)
2) Dolphins over Cowboys(-6,5) ...its 6.5 from 5,5 now.
3) Bills over Steelers(-10,5)
4) Chargers over Patriots(-3,5)
You could do it 2 ways:
A):
Take a base:Redskins, and make 3 tickets combining the other games:

1st Ticket:Redskins/Dolphins/Bills
2nd Ticket:Redskins/Dolphins/Chargers
3rd ticket:Redskins/Bills/Chargers

Bet $1.000 on each ticket=$3.000
At 7/1...Win all games and cash in $21.000
Lose a game other than the Redskins and cash in $7.000

B):

Combine all games in 4 tickets:

1st Ticket:Redskins/Dolphins/Bills
2nd Ticket:Redskins/Dolphins/Chargers
3rd ticket:Redskins/Bills/Chargers
4th ticket:Dolphins/Bills/Chargers

Bet $1.000 on each ticket=$4.000
At 7/1...win all games, Cash in $28.000
Lose any game and cash in $7.000

That is the way I recommend wagering this week.

But if you want to add another game(5)
With a base=6 tickets
Without a base=10 tickets

Add 2 more games(6)
With a base=10 tickets
Without a base=20 tickets

7 games
With a base=15 tickets
Without a base=35 tickets

8 games
With a base=21 tickets
without a base=56 tickets

The more games, the more defencive the gamble.

This week, personally I've wagered:
1st Ticket:Redskins/Dolphins/Bills $1.000
2nd Ticket:Redskins/Dolphins/Chargers $1.000
3rd ticket:Redskins/Bills/Chargers $1.000
4th ticket:Dolphins/Bills/Chargers $500

I also have 3 seperate series of tickets with smaller amounts wagered:

1st series:Base=Redskins/Chargers with
Colts/Panthers/Giants/49ers/Cardinals/Vikings/Bears/Raiders

2nd series:Base=Redskins/Dolphins with
Colts/Panthers/Giants/49ers/Cardinals/Vikings/Bears/Raiders

3rd series:Base=Redskins/Bills with
Colts/Panthers/Giants/49ers/Cardinals/Vikings/Bears/Raiders

=3 series of 8 bets=24 bets

This way, If i win my base(Redskins), and lose two of my other bases, and do well on the rest of my picks, i will get most of money at least.
On the other hand, should i do well on my bases, I will be heavily involved in the rest of the games mentioned.

[lumberjim]

that is so confusing!

let me just say......Go Cowboys! The Dolphins will be the unfortunate recipients of an inspired defensive smack down in response to the piss poor performance of opening day. 24-3 final score. Marion Barber will punch 2 in from inside the red zone, Crayton on a deep route and a field goal chip in early.

either that, or my crystal ball is AFU.

[xoxoxoBruce]

My pool requires a minimum of 4 games and the Eagles/Redskin game isn't on it.
Giants, Bills, Dolphins & Chargers.

[W.HI.P]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

My pool requires a minimum of 4 games and the Eagles/Redskin game isn't on it.
Giants, Bills, Dolphins & Chargers.

Its a rip-off, go elsewhere.
The net income of a bookie that requires 4 is much much greater than that of a (fair) bookie who requires 3.
Thief would be a better term.

payout....
with 3 wins:3's payout 1 bet = $10X2X2X2=$80
with 3 wins:4's payout 0 bets = $0

with 4 wins 3's payout 4 bets =$80X4=$320
with 4 wins 4's payout 1 bet = $10X2X2X2X2=$160

with 5 wins 3's payout 10 bets = $80X10=$800
with 5 wins 4's payout 5 bets = $160X5=$800

so as you can see, its just stupid to bet 4 games per bet when you can bet 3

now in the 6-7 option, it would be simply wiser to bet the 6-7, but you'll rarely win, especially at these odds ....end result=4's are not a good idea.

Seriously, look for somewhere else to bet.

that is so confusing!

let me just say......Go Cowboys! The Dolphins will be the unfortunate recipients of an inspired defensive smack down in response to the piss poor performance of opening day. 24-3 final score. Marion Barber will punch 2 in from inside the red zone, Crayton on a deep route and a field goal chip in early.

either that, or my crystal ball is AFU.

I don't believe in crystal balls, and i'm a witch.
The deep route sounds possible, but Marion from the inside ain't gonna be happening against the Dolphins.

[W.HI.P]

W.HI.P's NCAAF Rankings
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2)Oklahoma
3)USC
4)Florida
5)Penn State

[W.HI.P]

This is where the lesson about beting the maximum of 10% of your spare money comes in handy.

What? I'm a now employed for the bookies?

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

that is so confusing!

let me just say......Go Cowboys! The Dolphins will be the unfortunate recipients of an inspired defensive smack down in response to the piss poor performance of opening day. 24-3 final score. Marion Barber will punch 2 in from inside the red zone, Crayton on a deep route and a field goal chip in early.

either that, or my crystal ball is AFU.

Marion Barber scored on runs of 1 and 40 yards. He finished with 89 yards to help Dallas control the ball for 35 minutes.

i was 3/4 right?

[W.HI.P]

Latest results....

Buffalo Bills 3-26 Pitchberg Steelers(10.5)...................=Loss
Miami Dolphins 20-37 Dallas Cowboys(-6,5).................=Loss
San Diego Chargers 14-38 New England Patriots(-3,5)....=Loss
Washington Redskins 20-12 Philadelphis Eagles(-7,5)......=WIN

Won the base, but lost the rest...ouch for most, not so much for me, except my rep...grrr