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Tool. Not the band - you are one.
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Horrifying gang rape & assault on mother & son
I don't know if I've ever been so horrified by what happened in an area so close to home. I had to post this.
I'd like to know your thoughts on trying these "boys" as adults versus juveniles. Also, I don't know where to even begin with the psychological issues the victims will have to contend with for the rest of their lives... Police arrest 3rd teen in rape Quote:
After the attack, the mother and son walked several miles to the closest hospital for help. Not a single neighbor, some of whom HAD to have heard the attack through the paper-thin walls of the Section 8 housing, intervened or contacted authorities to stop it. All suspects are believed to be teenagers; the first one arrested was in middle school.
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We have to go back, Kate!
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Appalling crime. On whether they should be tried as juveniles: if they are juveniles, then they should be tried as juveniles, regardless of the nature of their crime. That they committed a horrific crime does not in any way change their age and likely level of mental/emotional development.
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why so serious
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this truly is a heinous crime - i don't know what your laws are concerning juveniles - my opinion would be to hold them in a facility for their age and when they become "adult" age - prosecute them as such. i know some people like to claim "products of their surroundings", but they still had a choice to make. it was the wrong choice.
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Extraordinary Machine
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Banned - Self Imposed
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Ok, so if one of these "kids" is 15, lets say, he is tried and convicted at a speedy trial - serves the maximum we can sentence a "kid" to and is out on his 18th birthday after serving less than 3 years. You think thats justice?? Right?? Fair??
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No, but you know what they say: You can't make an omelet without raping some eggs.
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Tool. Not the band - you are one.
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nice edit.
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Are we sure Florida law says 18 and out?
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It seems likely to me that a 15-year-old could change a lot in three years separated from his friends, harmful family influences, and whatever drugs he was probably doing, with the help of therapy and treatment for any mental illnesses. People don't just come in "good" and "bad" flavors, they can be ill, confused, high, angry at the world, unable to understand right and wrong, etc. Many of these can be changed or treated. I'm not saying that the US criminal justice system as it stands is well-equipped to do that, but I think it should be. |
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Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya?
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So can an adult.
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Hi and thanks Rennison.....but I think this has been covered in this thread about 15 times.
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The future is unwritten
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Welcome to the Cellar rennison.
![]() Yes, some thought went into why they did some of the things they did. But I don't think that part was preplanned. I suspect the sick bastards were making it up as they went along.
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i personally think they should lock all the guys who did it away until the 12yr old son turns 18, then they should let him execute each and every one of them.
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