Nationaist/racist world cup fandom - Page 2

Griff · 06-16-2006, 07:06 AM

Impression so far-
US was hyped as a team with great communication and moderate to good skills. In the first game they had no communication. That doesn't leave much.

UK better start showing some creativity, they got a fortunate grouping but the tourney is going to get serious soon.

Trinidad Tobago gutty play by an over matched team (if the US had half their heart...) neat story Christopher Birchall the white guy on the team was approached by a large black man before a football match. "Where was your Mom born?" He told him the city in Trinidad. The guy gave him a big smile and walked away without saying another word. Later he was contacted by the National team. He knew England would never play him so he became a key player for T/T.

Sundae · 06-16-2006, 07:38 AM

I much preferred the England-Trinidad & Tobago game last night to the Germany-Poland game the night before. Neither of them will go into the World Cup history books, but at least there were more near misses in the England game. And that lovely shot from Gerrard of course.

I know we should have given Trinidad & Tobago a harder time, but we were obviously outplaying them by the end of the second half and the substitutions were inspired.

I think we can pick things up and play some really exciting football in the next round.

(BTW we're not the UK when it comes to football, we all play separately, so it's England in the World Cup)

Griff · 06-16-2006, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

(BTW we're not the UK when it comes to football, we all play separately, so it's England in the World Cup)

My bad. England has a ton of upside so they can get away with not playing their best game, but when single elimination kicks in they'd best take it up a notch. (I'm still a racist rooting trannationalist Americans though

)

Griff · 06-17-2006, 05:10 PM

The US played very good ball today, they should be proud.

Trilby · 06-17-2006, 05:33 PM

I saw about five min. of US v. Italy. Looked like we were playing rather dirty.

Sundae · 06-17-2006, 05:47 PM

Both teams played dirty to an extent - the elbow to the face from the Italian player (sorry, didn't take names) was quite shocking. And you didn't deserve a red card for the shin tackle...!

Am just looking forward to our next game regardless, and buoyed up by all the St George crosses I see - alone among the countries of the UK I think England has been afraid of national pride - why should we let the racists hijack our sense of national identity? You don't in the US. Go on England!

wolf · 06-20-2006, 10:14 PM

My schedule makes it nigh impossible to follow any of the games, but we have a doctor from Ghana here who is quite excited about the cup. Any comments on the Israeli flag controversy?

Griff · 06-21-2006, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolf

My schedule makes it nigh impossible to follow any of the games, but we have a doctor from Ghana here who is quite excited about the cup. Any comments on the Israeli flag controversy?

It was a smart way to solidify his fan base! No apology should have been given. It was fine for the spokesman to say that Ghana is neutral, but for him to imply that the player was somehow wrong in waving the flag is in itself politicizing an act that was not intended to be political.

wolf · 06-21-2006, 10:03 AM

Would anyone actually notice if the Arab Countries withdrew from the cup in protest? Ghana is apparently not at all concerned about them cutting off trade and diplomatic relations.

Griff · 06-21-2006, 10:30 AM

Well if Iran (I know, Persian) were to leave right now Angola could run up the score and maybe bump Mexico out of the next round since they are not getting it done against Portugal. (this post is time sensitive since the games are in progress)

Griff · 06-22-2006, 08:13 AM

For the Americans to advance, they must defeat Ghana in their last game. In addition to beating Ghana, the U.S. team needs one of these scenarios to take place:

1. Italy defeats the Czech Republic.

2. Italy ties the Czech Republic 0-0 or 1-1 AND the United States beats Ghana by at least four goals.

3. Italy ties the Czech Republic 2-2 or with a higher score AND the United States beats Ghana by five or more goals.

4. Italy ties the Czech Republic 2-2 or with a higher score AND the United States beats Ghana by four goals AND the U.S. team scores at least three goals more than the Czechs do in their tie.

5. The Czech Republic beats Italy AND the total combined margin of victory for the Americans and Czechs is six or more.

6. The Czech Republic beats Italy AND the total combined margin of victory for the Americans and Czechs is five AND the U.S. team scores at least three goals more than the Italians do in their loss.

7. The Czech Republic beats Italy AND the total combined margin of victory for the Americans and Czechs is five AND the U.S. team scores exactly two more goals than the Italians do in their loss AND the Americans win a drawing of lots by FIFA.

Sundae · 06-22-2006, 08:44 AM

Blimey. I quite fancy Italy's chances against the Czech Republic though....

Good luck - it's a bit early for me to watch, but I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Undertoad · 06-22-2006, 09:03 AM

And all for the right to be eliminated by Brazil in the next round...

no matter...

U! S! A!

U! S! A!

Griff · 06-22-2006, 09:05 AM

It would be nice to lose to the champs!

Griff · 06-22-2006, 09:32 AM

Italy is doing their part. Man I wish we we had some offense.

06-16-2006, 07:06 AM	#16
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Impression so far- US was hyped as a team with great communication and moderate to good skills. In the first game they had no communication. That doesn't leave much. UK better start showing some creativity, they got a fortunate grouping but the tourney is going to get serious soon. Trinidad Tobago gutty play by an over matched team (if the US had half their heart...) neat story Christopher Birchall the white guy on the team was approached by a large black man before a football match. "Where was your Mom born?" He told him the city in Trinidad. The guy gave him a big smile and walked away without saying another word. Later he was contacted by the National team. He knew England would never play him so he became a key player for T/T. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

06-17-2006, 05:10 PM	#19
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	The US played very good ball today, they should be proud. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

06-17-2006, 05:33 PM	#20
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	I saw about five min. of US v. Italy. Looked like we were playing rather dirty. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

06-20-2006, 10:14 PM	#22
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	My schedule makes it nigh impossible to follow any of the games, but we have a doctor from Ghana here who is quite excited about the cup. Any comments on the Israeli flag controversy? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

06-21-2006, 10:03 AM	#24
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Would anyone actually notice if the Arab Countries withdrew from the cup in protest? Ghana is apparently not at all concerned about them cutting off trade and diplomatic relations. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

06-16-2006, 07:38 AM	#17
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	I much preferred the England-Trinidad & Tobago game last night to the Germany-Poland game the night before. Neither of them will go into the World Cup history books, but at least there were more near misses in the England game. And that lovely shot from Gerrard of course. I know we should have given Trinidad & Tobago a harder time, but we were obviously outplaying them by the end of the second half and the substitutions were inspired. I think we can pick things up and play some really exciting football in the next round. (BTW we're not the UK when it comes to football, we all play separately, so it's England in the World Cup)

06-17-2006, 05:47 PM	#21
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Both teams played dirty to an extent - the elbow to the face from the Italian player (sorry, didn't take names) was quite shocking. And you didn't deserve a red card for the shin tackle...! Am just looking forward to our next game regardless, and buoyed up by all the St George crosses I see - alone among the countries of the UK I think England has been afraid of national pride - why should we let the racists hijack our sense of national identity? You don't in the US. Go on England!

06-21-2006, 10:30 AM	#25
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Well if Iran (I know, Persian) were to leave right now Angola could run up the score and maybe bump Mexico out of the next round since they are not getting it done against Portugal. (this post is time sensitive since the games are in progress) __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

06-22-2006, 08:13 AM	#26
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	This is what it has come to. For the Americans to advance, they must defeat Ghana in their last game. In addition to beating Ghana, the U.S. team needs one of these scenarios to take place: 1. Italy defeats the Czech Republic. 2. Italy ties the Czech Republic 0-0 or 1-1 AND the United States beats Ghana by at least four goals. 3. Italy ties the Czech Republic 2-2 or with a higher score AND the United States beats Ghana by five or more goals. 4. Italy ties the Czech Republic 2-2 or with a higher score AND the United States beats Ghana by four goals AND the U.S. team scores at least three goals more than the Czechs do in their tie. 5. The Czech Republic beats Italy AND the total combined margin of victory for the Americans and Czechs is six or more. 6. The Czech Republic beats Italy AND the total combined margin of victory for the Americans and Czechs is five AND the U.S. team scores at least three goals more than the Italians do in their loss. 7. The Czech Republic beats Italy AND the total combined margin of victory for the Americans and Czechs is five AND the U.S. team scores exactly two more goals than the Italians do in their loss AND the Americans win a drawing of lots by FIFA. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

06-22-2006, 08:44 AM	#27
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	Blimey. I quite fancy Italy's chances against the Czech Republic though.... Good luck - it's a bit early for me to watch, but I'll keep my fingers crossed.

06-22-2006, 09:03 AM	#28
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	And all for the right to be eliminated by Brazil in the next round... no matter... U! S! A! U! S! A!

06-22-2006, 09:05 AM	#29
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	It would be nice to lose to the champs! __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

06-22-2006, 09:32 AM	#30
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Italy is doing their part. Man I wish we we had some offense. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

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