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Old 10-24-2006, 12:29 PM   #16
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I mean the 2000 spread (not the 2006 spread) when I refer to the 2000 spread.
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Old 10-24-2006, 12:31 PM   #17
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Geez that chart tells me there are those who wish to do something (Moderates and Conservatives) and those who just want to complain - liberals. Hmmm
Jeez, that chart tells me that when forced to choose, moderates side with Liberals, not those nasty selfish conservatives.
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Old 10-24-2006, 12:36 PM   #18
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The rest of the data



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Old 10-24-2006, 12:42 PM   #19
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"And now you know why Fox gets the ratings that it does, and why AirAm can't survive."

Didn't Fox lose over 1/2 BILLION dollars in it's first few years?
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Old 10-24-2006, 12:46 PM   #20
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ha ha ha

The biggest shift is the drop in "conservative-identified" Democrats, and the almost perfectly-corresponding rise in "liberal-identified" Democrats... You can almost see the boogey-man-ification of the words "liberal" and "conservative" right there in the data . . .
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Old 10-24-2006, 12:49 PM   #21
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Anyone with half a semester of college prob & stats know you can skew data in clever enough ways as to go unnoticed and say what you want.

Data schmata. Rush is still an idiot, blowhard, pompous, self-serving...etc and so on.
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Old 10-24-2006, 12:50 PM   #22
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The boogey-man-ification of "liberal" had already happened, that chart shows the de-boogey-man-ification as the conservatives displayed their incompetance.
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Old 10-24-2006, 12:52 PM   #23
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Didn't Fox lose over 1/2 BILLION dollars in it's first few years?
I would assume that is always the case in cable networking; you would lose money until you get enough carriage and potential audience to become profitable.
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Old 10-24-2006, 12:53 PM   #24
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The boogey-man-ification of "liberal" had already happened, that chart shows the de-boogey-man-ification as the conservatives displayed their incompetance.
Technically, wouldn't the perceived (I'm not debating this either way) incompetence be attahced to the actual ruling party, not so much an ideology?
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Old 10-24-2006, 12:55 PM   #25
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So would be The Washington Times, the New York Post, and even the early years of Fox News without continuing cash infusions from their owners.
Well, apparently the founders of Air America have taken their cash infusions to a new shell.
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Old 10-24-2006, 12:58 PM   #26
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ha ha ha

The biggest shift is the drop in "conservative-identified" Democrats, and the almost perfectly-corresponding rise in "liberal-identified" Democrats... You can almost see the boogey-man-ification of the words "liberal" and "conservative" right there in the data . . .
Can't be much boogyman factor to "liberal" amongst the "progressives" then.
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Old 10-24-2006, 01:00 PM   #27
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Jeez, that chart tells me that when forced to choose, moderates side with Liberals, not those nasty selfish conservatives.
Where in the chart are you seeing "moderates"?
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Old 10-24-2006, 01:01 PM   #28
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Can't be much boogyman factor to "liberal" amongst the "progressives" then.
I don't know, do you have another chart for progressives?
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Old 10-24-2006, 01:02 PM   #29
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Where in the chart are you seeing "moderates"?
Moderates are the green line.
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Old 10-24-2006, 02:36 PM   #30
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Where in the chart are you seeing "moderates"?

The green line that's just about the same level as the conservatives. Duh.
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