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View Poll Results: Your opinion of yourself is?
I am thrilled to be me! 7 16.28%
I like me, but I need some work 22 51.16%
I would rather be me than most people i meet 8 18.60%
Who cares! 2 4.65%
I think I'd rather change places with most people 1 2.33%
I am sick of being me..what's next? 2 4.65%
I hate me. you should too. 1 2.33%
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Old 08-18-2007, 04:38 PM   #16
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Why is that?
If you are good at something you are good at it... it is a fact, no emotion need be placed upon it.
False humility is about appeasing the envious.
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Old 08-18-2007, 05:03 PM   #17
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Bugger that for a game of soldiers. If I am good at something I am going to feel proud or even smug about it.
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Old 08-18-2007, 05:36 PM   #18
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If you are good at something you are good at it... it is a fact, no emotion need be placed upon it.
False humility is about appeasing the envious.
What is true humility about, then? What is wrong with acknowleging someone elses achievements or aptitude? Shall I not be proud of my children or my family? What is wrong with expressing that?
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Old 08-18-2007, 05:43 PM   #19
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If you are good at something you are good at it... it is a fact, no emotion need be placed upon it.
False humility is about appeasing the envious.

umm


If false humility is about appeasing the envious then true humility is about???


Also you ( people ) will have an emotion about it regardless if it's labeled in our mind or not. You have emotion stating your beliefs. All motivation to do anything is brought on by an emotion. You can tamp it down and brush it off but it's still there 'till someday your taking pride in the fact you can deny your emotions so well. Emotions are sneaky buggers like that.
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Old 08-18-2007, 09:23 PM   #20
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True humility is about not bragging and not setting yourself above others or comparing yourself to others... has nothing to do with my point.
Completely separate issue.
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Old 08-19-2007, 12:16 AM   #21
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true humility is unconscious of it's own humility. It seeks not to be more humble than others. It is unaware.

there lies a trap in the allure of being illuminated. To strive for illumination by seeking to excel in humility and such areas creates a counterproductive effort vacuum. to be truly humble is to be thoughtless of it.

i am not at all humble. i think i am better than you. really, i do.

honestly. might just be my survival instinct working, or something. maybe the rum.
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Old 08-19-2007, 12:19 AM   #22
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True humility is about not bragging and not setting yourself above others or comparing yourself to others... has nothing to do with my point.
Completely separate issue.
From the thread topic--it isn't.
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Old 08-19-2007, 12:24 AM   #23
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Mac Davis speaks....

"Lord it's hard to be humble, but I'm doing the best that I can"

Then goes on to say.....

Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
when you're perfect in every way.
I can't wait to look in the mirror
cause I get better looking each day.
To know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a man.
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
but I'm doing the best that I can.

I used to have a girlfriend
but she just couldn't compete
with all of these love starved women
who keep clamoring at my feet.
Well I prob'ly could find me another
but I guess they're all in awe of me.
Who cares, I never get lonesome
cause I treasure my own company.

I guess you could say I'm a loner,
a cowboy outlaw tough and proud.
I could have lots of friends if I want to
but then I wouldn't stand out from the crowd.
Some folks say that I'm egotistical.
Hell, I don't even know what that means.
I guess it has something to do with the way that I
fill out my skin tight blue jeans.

Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
when you're perfect in every way,
I can't wait to look in the mirror
cause I get better looking each day
To know me is to love me
I must be a hell of a man.
Oh Lord it's hard to be humble
but I'm doing the best that I can.
We're doing the best that we can
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Old 08-19-2007, 12:24 AM   #24
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has nothing to do with my point.
Geez... reading again.
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Old 08-19-2007, 12:27 AM   #25
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I made my own point. It's not always about your points, rk.
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Old 08-19-2007, 07:40 PM   #26
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true humility is unconscious of it's own humility. It seeks not to be more humble than others. It is unaware.

there lies a trap in the allure of being illuminated. To strive for illumination by seeking to excel in humility and such areas creates a counterproductive effort vacuum. to be truly humble is to be thoughtless of it.

i am not at all humble. i think i am better than you. really, i do.

honestly. might just be my survival instinct working, or something. maybe the rum.
That's ironic, LJ, because I still think of you as humblejim. Perhaps you are so unconcious of your humility that you have achieved perfection.

Gosh, I hope I didn't just destroy that.
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Old 08-19-2007, 07:48 PM   #27
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Shouldn't you be off somewhere consorting with the meek?
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Old 08-19-2007, 08:12 PM   #28
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Consorting as in... consorting?
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Old 08-19-2007, 08:12 PM   #29
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What do I know, I'm not the omnipotent one
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Old 08-19-2007, 08:25 PM   #30
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