While you're all outraged about the bailout...

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

Obviously, you dont agree but that doesnt make it false.

Nor does it really prove your point. There is no proof that this will change things. We already have numerous examples of Pelosi and Reid ramrodding legislation and keeping details of impending bills secret to the last minute before voting. That dog won't hunt.

[Trilby]

To Do My Part - Read This:

First I was afraid
I was petrified
Kept thinking I could never live
without you by my side
But I spent so many nights
thinking how you did me wrong
I grew strong
I learned how to carry on
and so you're back
from outer space
I just walked in to find you here
with that sad look upon your face
I should have changed my stupid lock
I should have made you leave your key
If I had known for just one second
you'd be back to bother me

Go on now go walk out the door
just turn around now
'cause you're not welcome anymore
weren't you the one who tried to hurt me with goodbye
you think I'd crumble
you think I'd lay down and die
Oh no, not I
I will survive
as long as i know how to love
I know I will stay alive
I've got all my life to live
I've got all my love to give
and I'll survive
I will survive

It took all the strength I had
not to fall apart
kept trying hard to mend
the pieces of my broken heart
and I spent oh so many nights
just feeling sorry for myself
I used to cry
Now I hold my head up high
and you see me
somebody new
I'm not that chained up little person
still in love with you
and so you felt like dropping in
and just expect me to be free
now I'm saving all my loving
for someone who's loving me

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Nor does it really prove your point. There is no proof that this will change things. We already have numerous examples of Pelosi and Reid ramrodding legislation and keeping details of impending bills secret to the last minute before voting. That dog won't hunt.

We do? Some examples of secrecy, please?

[tw]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

We already have numerous examples of Pelosi and Reid ramrodding legislation and keeping details of impending bills secret to the last minute before voting. That dog won't hunt.

If true, then Congress is still doing what did not happen until wacko extremists started doing some 12 years ago.

Whether these bills finally bring responsibility back to America has yet to be seen. But what we do know is the agenda is not to work for America - not for a wacko extremist agenda that - well George Jr signed more than twice as many secret findings as all other presidents combined. This was called transparency to wacko extremists. We now has the secrecy and extremist perversion that is slowly being eliminated. If Pelosi and Reid are ramrodding, then wacko extremist Republicans were raping. Finally, even science is being encouraged again. May we never again see another Terry Schiavo incident because wacko extremists had power.

[Flint]

NSFW

[TheMercenary]

Balls.

[classicman]

Flint - you are looking oooollllllddddd brother - looks like you need a vacation

[classicman]

Originally Posted by tw

If true, then Congress is still doing what did not happen until wacko extremists started doing some 12 years ago.

Mommy, Billy did it - why can't I?? What kind of excuse it that?

Originally Posted by tw

But what we do know is the agenda is not to work for America

Uh, I think you got a typo in there?!?!?! Freudian slip perhaps?

Originally Posted by tw

If Pelosi and Reid are ramrodding, then wacko extremist Republicans were raping.

So that makes it ok? Uh, no.

[sugarpop]

I don't think it would be such a bad thing to require young adults to serve, in some capacity, for a couple of years. It might actually instill some good qualities, instead of laziness and greed.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

I don't think it would be such a bad thing to require young adults to serve, in some capacity, for a couple of years. It might actually instill some good qualities, instead of laziness and greed.

The federal government is not empowered to compel any service beyond the military.

[ZenGum]

Originally Posted by TGRR

The federal government is not empowered to compel any service beyond the military.

Does that apply to prisoners who are required to work in near-sweatshop conditions? Seems to me they are being compelled to do so by the government, or in the case of privately run prisons, by the government's proxy.

Mind you, I reckon it probably does 'em some good. Just askin, thats all.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by ZenGum

Does that apply to prisoners who are required to work in near-sweatshop conditions?

Nope. Those citizens have been convicted in a court of law. Apples and oranges.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by TGRR

The federal government is not empowered to compel any service beyond the military.

Why?

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

Why?

Because that's the only compulsory service the constitution authorizes, and amendment X forbids them from doing anything they are not specifically empowered to do.

[sugarpop]

Why?