Peace Activist Run Over By Bulldozer - Page 2

Nothing But Net · 03-27-2003, 11:08 PM

WoG (heh, good acronym, are you one?):

Everyone is allowed to express their opinion in this country, and even assemble in public to do so (try that in most Middle East countries).

Shitting on the sidewalk, blocking streets, and standing in front of moving heavy machinery just aren't really effective ways of making a point. It just makes you look stupid.

Undertoad · 03-27-2003, 11:41 PM

She's not BEING violent, although she is burning (!) the symbol of her citizenship in a celebration of violent, suicidal behavior while her organization provides shelter to organizers of the worst kind of thugs.

But you can't claim that she doesn't LOOK violent. Tell the truth: if the bitch in those photos moved next door, wailing at full voice, her Zippo at the ready, well you'd surely run out and buy reinforced deadbolts, and put the number of the local cops on speed dial.

I would never say that people don't have the right to protest. I have often protested myself, and yes in the streets. However I do reserve the right to judge whether the protesters are in the right. To my way of thinking, the folks at the Tea Party were. The woman in those images is not. Which side are you on?

Nothing But Net · 03-28-2003, 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Undertoad
if the bitch in those photos moved next door, wailing at full voice, her Zippo at the ready, well you'd surely run out and buy reinforced deadbolts, and put the number of the local cops on speed dial.

Undertoad, not only are you a poet, but you're a fucking genius as well.

Kudos, my friend, that was one of the best posts anywhere, ever.

jaguar · 03-28-2003, 04:33 AM

Well you know when you witness that kind of opression and forced depreavity every day you tend ot get ANGRY. In fact you'd probably start to understand and empathise why people are willing to sacrifice thier such limited lives when they live in a state of constant bullying, humiliation and slaughter that means even non-violent results in bloody murder of even foreign citizens without qualms but thugs. Only difference is the thugs have tanks, armoured bulldozers and f-16s. Which legitimises it of course.

03-28-2003, 09:48 AM

What's she burning there, Tony?

Bitmap · 03-28-2003, 10:55 AM

Found this <a href="http://www.israelnationalnews.com/article.php3?id=2111">article</a>[israelnationalnews.com]:

Quote:

Rachel Corrie´s wasted life ended as a result of throwing herself in front of an Israeli bulldozer to protect the "property" of a terrorist,

But i can't decide who is the bigger fool, The one that steps infont of the buldozer or the one that drives it.

03-28-2003, 11:08 AM

It wasn't the home of a doctor she was standing in front of?

Undertoad · 03-28-2003, 11:13 AM

She's burning the symbol of her country of citizenship.

03-28-2003, 11:16 AM

<a href="http://www.cellar.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=20062#post20062">And there's something wrong with that?</a>

Undertoad · 03-28-2003, 12:17 PM

No there isn't.

WrathOfGod · 03-28-2003, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Undertoad
Which side are you on?

I am on the side of Truth, Justice, and Liberty. Your vulgarities and arguments could never sway me from that. I will defend the Constitution and its Bill of Rights to my last breath. I have been a soldier but now I am a citizen, and I compelled by the duties of a citizen to question the actions and motives of my representatives. I will protest when necessary and I will defend the right of others to express protest even if I disagree with their message. Which side are you on?

Nightsong · 03-28-2003, 07:12 PM

Well wrath you sound like either a evangilist or a politician. I would not judge or attack anyone on who's side they are on because everyone is entitled to their own opinions. As long as they believe in their thing than that is fine, but are we still talking about the same post or are you using this as a campian to something bigger?? Just curious...

elSicomoro · 03-28-2003, 07:19 PM

Yeah, that last post by polliwog sounded like something radar would say...maybe they're related.

Undertoad · 03-28-2003, 09:20 PM

WoG, thank you for your service.

It's interesting because I, too, am on the side of Truth, Justice, and Liberty and believe in defending the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

So THAT'S not the source of our differences... what is?

xoxoxoBruce · 03-29-2003, 09:05 AM

Everyone is allowed to voice their opinion and demonstrate their position as long as they do it in a way that's acceptable to ME.

03-28-2003, 04:33 AM	#19
jaguar whig Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 5,075	Well you know when you witness that kind of opression and forced depreavity every day you tend ot get ANGRY. In fact you'd probably start to understand and empathise why people are willing to sacrifice thier such limited lives when they live in a state of constant bullying, humiliation and slaughter that means even non-violent results in bloody murder of even foreign citizens without qualms but thugs. Only difference is the thugs have tanks, armoured bulldozers and f-16s. Which legitimises it of course. __________________ Good friends, good books and a sleepy conscience: this is the ideal life. - Twain

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03-27-2003, 11:08 PM	#16
Nothing But Net Professor Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Spring, Texas Posts: 1,481	WoG (heh, good acronym, are you one?): Everyone is allowed to express their opinion in this country, and even assemble in public to do so (try that in most Middle East countries). Shitting on the sidewalk, blocking streets, and standing in front of moving heavy machinery just aren't really effective ways of making a point. It just makes you look stupid.

03-27-2003, 11:41 PM	#17
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	She's not BEING violent, although she is burning (!) the symbol of her citizenship in a celebration of violent, suicidal behavior while her organization provides shelter to organizers of the worst kind of thugs. But you can't claim that she doesn't LOOK violent. Tell the truth: if the bitch in those photos moved next door, wailing at full voice, her Zippo at the ready, well you'd surely run out and buy reinforced deadbolts, and put the number of the local cops on speed dial. I would never say that people don't have the right to protest. I have often protested myself, and yes in the streets. However I do reserve the right to judge whether the protesters are in the right. To my way of thinking, the folks at the Tea Party were. The woman in those images is not. Which side are you on?

03-28-2003, 09:48 AM	#20
dave Guest Posts: n/a	What's she burning there, Tony?

03-28-2003, 11:08 AM	#22
dave Guest Posts: n/a	It wasn't the home of a doctor she was standing in front of?

03-28-2003, 11:13 AM	#23
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	She's burning the symbol of her country of citizenship.

03-28-2003, 11:16 AM	#24
dave Guest Posts: n/a	<a href="http://www.cellar.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=20062#post20062">And there's something wrong with that?</a>

03-28-2003, 12:17 PM	#25
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	No there isn't.

03-28-2003, 07:12 PM	#27
Nightsong Wang Dude Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 177	Well wrath you sound like either a evangilist or a politician. I would not judge or attack anyone on who's side they are on because everyone is entitled to their own opinions. As long as they believe in their thing than that is fine, but are we still talking about the same post or are you using this as a campian to something bigger?? Just curious...

03-28-2003, 07:19 PM	#28
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Yeah, that last post by polliwog sounded like something radar would say...maybe they're related.

03-28-2003, 09:20 PM	#29
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	WoG, thank you for your service. It's interesting because I, too, am on the side of Truth, Justice, and Liberty and believe in defending the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. So THAT'S not the source of our differences... what is?

03-29-2003, 09:05 AM	#30
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Everyone is allowed to voice their opinion and demonstrate their position as long as they do it in a way that's acceptable to ME.

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