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Old 01-26-2018, 02:28 PM   #1
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If not Dali, the largest fraud ever foisted on the art world, Jackson Pollock.
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Old 01-26-2018, 03:09 PM   #2
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You know I'm going to get on my Pollock soapbox.

His work near-perfectly reproduces what scientists have determined is the most pleasing visual distribution of an image--something found in nature, for example, as a dense forest canopy. This wasn't by accident. Computer analysis of the visual distribution of his work shows a clear, unmistakable trend--he was fairly close, in his earlier works, to the perfect distribution; he steadily, empirically, improved over time; and once he was able to produce his most "pleasing to the human eye" images, he never wavered and never fell back down in effectiveness--there were no statistical outliers in this trend, it was methodically consistent. This was a purpose-driven result. He knew exactly what he wanted to do and he achieved it through persistent effort.

Computer analysis of a Pollock work can accurately date at which period of his career he produced it, and determine with complete confidence if it is a forgery of a Pollock work--others are not able to produce the images he does, even when "copying" his work.

Taste is subjective, but appreciation of a craftsman's facility and technique isn't an evaluation of taste. I don't think "fraud" is the correct word to describe someone who is literally, scientifically verified to have achieved a very specific, measurable result.
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Old 01-26-2018, 03:15 PM   #3
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I like Pollock's art. Draws you in. There's something primal about it, but also kind of delicate and organic.
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Old 01-26-2018, 08:31 PM   #4
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I like Pollock's art. Draws you in. There's something primal about it, but also kind of delicate and organic.
What does that have to do with a gold shit house? Maybe we should ask the Donald?
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Old 01-26-2018, 09:03 PM   #5
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If you need a computer to tell you whether a painting is good or not, it's not art it's science.
The "experts" running around fawning about how great it is to drive up the prices(commissions) are fraudsters.
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Old 01-29-2018, 03:04 AM   #6
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Haggis!

Not so much weird as eminently sensible.

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Old 01-29-2018, 11:24 AM   #7
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Haggis is better tossed than eaten.
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Old 01-29-2018, 01:43 PM   #8
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Haggis is best eaten. With tatties and neeps.


Ftw. Food of the fucking gods, man.



You can actually get some pretty decent vegetarian haggis these days too. Me, though, I prefer the real deal.




[eta] mind you, y'all are probably against black pudding too.
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Old 01-29-2018, 02:14 PM   #9
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[eta] mind you, y'all are probably against black pudding too.
And tripe!
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Old 01-29-2018, 05:27 PM   #10
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And tripe!
I'm not a fan of tripe.
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Old 01-29-2018, 05:08 PM   #11
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You must be kidding, with the Mexican population here! When I lived in San Antonio, Texas, I had a big bowl of menudo for breakfast almost every morning.
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How is vegetarian haggis even a thing?

Like a vegetarian hamburger..

Not a hamburger.
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Old 01-29-2018, 05:32 PM   #13
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How is vegetarian haggis even a thing?

Like a vegetarian hamburger..

Not a hamburger.
Well - haggis has quite a subtle flavour - it's all about the seasonings. Get the seasonings right and you get something that is really quite nice. It doesn't taste exactly like proper haggis but it hits a lot of the same notes.
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Old 01-29-2018, 06:35 PM   #14
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No mater how it's spiced, it's offal.
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No mater how it's spiced, it's offal.
Good pun.
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