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Old 05-02-2016, 01:42 PM   #1
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If I semi-regularly run an empty load with one of those citric acid "dishwasher cleaner" powder things, will that also get to the screen you guys are talking about, or not? My dishwasher's doing okay, but I know we haven't done jack in the way of maintenance for it since we moved in 9 years ago.
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Old 05-02-2016, 01:51 PM   #2
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that will probably help the screen BigV is talking about. It gets gunked up with old food particles and grease and stuff.

The screen I'm talking about can't be helped with anything. It's the fault of grit and sand in the city water.
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Old 05-02-2016, 02:00 PM   #3
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Old 05-02-2016, 02:01 PM   #4
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I'm afraid they will only want to improve my flow by roto rooting the thing.
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Old 05-06-2016, 08:24 AM   #5
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that will probably help the screen BigV is talking about. It gets gunked up with old food particles and grease and stuff.

The screen I'm talking about can't be helped with anything. It's the fault of grit and sand in the city water.
So, been thinking about your video...

An obstructed inlet screen, that will definitely reduce the flow. But, at what point in the cycle? Your (anyone's) dishwasher gets a volume of water, then recirculates it, soapy water definitely, but I can't imagine the spray from even the straight rinse cycle is using only the water pressure from the house.

You may well have an inlet screen that needs cleaning, but that low pressure jet... It seems like there are additional restrictions. You said that you have lots more footage. What does the spray pattern / pressure look like in the middle of the wash cycle? When the inlet screen is not a factor.
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Old 05-06-2016, 09:27 AM   #6
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The inlet valve on the GE dishwasher has a screen before it on the water supply side. A timer opens the valve for 90 seconds to allow 90 seconds worth of water into the dishwasher. A couple gallons. There is a float switch that shuts the inlet valve before 90 seconds if too much water gets in, but there is no device to prevent too little water from getting in. GE tells you in the guts of the owner's manual that if you have low water pressure, you should purchase an optional high capacity valve (so more water will come in during the 90 seconds.)

Once that water is in the dishwasher, the dishwasher recirculates it for the duration of the cycle. After the cycle, a discharge pump pumps the water out, and if a new cycle is starting, the inlet valve opens up again to let new water in.

During recirculation, the water is strained through a grate, a grinding blade, and then a screen before entering the recirculation pump to keep big chunks of food from clogging the pump. [Edit: these parts can get coated with grease and slime and food particles over time, and cloddfobble's cleaner, as well as manually removing the grate and washing it every couple years is probably a good idea. There are actually a couple grates you can clean in my DW.]

In my dishwasher, if I am correct, the inlet valve screen is blocked with 15 years worth of sand and sediment and not enough fresh water is entering the dishwasher during those 90 seconds at the beginning of the cycle. The pump is starved of water and is blowing air at times. The lack of water and water power results in dirty dishes.

I'll have a chance this weekend to dig into the valve to see if I'm correct. The new part arrived yesterday and below is a picture of the screen on a brand new clean valve. It's actually a big screen because it's very concave by about an inch. More like a screen basket than a screen.
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Old 05-06-2016, 09:32 AM   #7
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And this is the overview of the part.

That whole fat plastic area behind the brass fitting is full of screen. It's a big screen, and I think GE knows it's going to get clogged eventually, so they make it as big as possible in the part.
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Old 05-02-2016, 04:09 PM   #8
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Old 05-03-2016, 01:45 AM   #9
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Old 05-03-2016, 07:24 AM   #10
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Question: Why are some of us now posting vidz on YT in both 4:3 and 16:9?
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Old 05-03-2016, 07:35 AM   #11
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small and large, because the small version can be seen on Tapatalk while the big version can't
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Old 05-03-2016, 09:27 AM   #12
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small and large, because the small version can be seen on Tapatalk while the big version can't
Just read the Wiki-article on Tapatalk. I don't have any mobile devices, so I wouldn't have known what you said.

Why not just post the small version? It's basically the same as watching a widescreen/letterboxed movie on an old 4:3 TV. The widescreen image is simply shrunk down to fit the 4:3 viewing area.

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Old 05-03-2016, 09:34 AM   #14
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Some people like the large version, which on most people's browsers, takes up a much larger section of screen. Others cannot see that version.
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Old 05-03-2016, 01:18 PM   #15
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Videos that have details that take up a small portion of the frame, especially the phone videos that only use a third of the frame to begin with, can be seen better in a large frame. Also videos that are scenic or something like a halftime show are nicer in the large frame. But that screws the people watching on their phone.

Of course in the small frame, if you have the larger screen you can click to youtube and make it fullscreen. But some people are blocked from youtube or don't trust linking out, so as a courtesy, I post both frames unless it's something where I don't feel screen size matters.

However, boobs should always be viewed on the largest screen possible.
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