The Obamanation

[Happy Monkey]

Then you don't disagree with the statement.

[classicman]

Again, the statement is bullshit unless you are uninformed and/or ignorant.

[Happy Monkey]

If the statement does apply to uninformed/ignorant people, as you have conceded, and said uninformed/ignorant people exist, which your concession implies, then the statement is true.

[Flint]

Wait--he only implied that uninformed/ignorant "exist" (based on your interpretation of his post). Maybe they don't, and then he wins.

[capnhowdy]

Either way, we're still stuck with an idiot for a president. I have a feeling nobody will win at this game.

[classicman]

That's because we are all just pawns in the game. Cannon fodder, if you will.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

But if "a LOT of the anger out there IS because we have a black man as president, and a lot of the animosity IS race driven" "among the uninformed/ignorant", then the premise that "a LOT of the anger out there IS because we have a black man as president, and a lot of the animosity IS race driven" isn't bullshit.

Sounds like bullshit to me. I did hear a a black woman on CNN make a very emotional statement supporting this notion that all this opposition to Obama is race driven. All she could offer to support her statements were some very loose associations and connections which bordered on conspiracy theory and really discredited her. CNN gave her a pass and never once challanged her statements. So far no one can prove any racial connection between opposition to Obama's policies. So until that happens it is all Bullshit. Talk about fear mongering among the supporters of Obama to get people to support them. Wow, sounds just like what the Republickins did to get people to support the WOT.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

And the study sheet the Obama Administration put out for school use pending Obama's upcoming speech was astonishingly personality-cultish for the United States. It is more what would be expected for Cuba, Albania, or Ingushetiya. Obama's people thought this would be a good idea. Well, when half your "special advisors" are communists, this is the sort of thing you have to expect.

And that lunatic Radar thought Obama was "the more libertarian candidate." Dear God, what ineptitude and imperception. Radar voted not his wisdom, but his wildly anti-Republican prejudices. It's a dumb thing to vote with your limbic system.

[TheMercenary]

FACT CHECK: Biden ignores problems with stimulus

Biden noted 192 airports targeted for improvements with stimulus money, but made no reference to the investigation launched after a federal watchdog raised concerns about how the projects were selected.

Transportation Department Inspector General Calvin Scovel said last month he will examine the Federal Aviation Administration's process for selecting programs for the $1.1 billion in grant money. His announcement came after his office discovered that the Obama administration used stimulus money to pay for 50 airport projects that didn't meet the grant criteria and approved projects at four airports with a history of mismanaging federal grants.

In making the case that the recovery program was not just economically sound but also good policy, Biden noted that transportation money was replacing unsafe bridges.

"It is worthwhile to take some of those 5,000 bridges out there that are ready to collapse, follow what happened in the upper Midwest, and fix them," he said.

But most states are spending stimulus money on bridges that are already in good shape, another AP analysis found. Of the 2,476 bridges scheduled to receive stimulus money so far, nearly half have passed inspections with high marks, according to federal data. Those 1,123 sound bridges received such high inspection ratings that they normally would not qualify for federal bridge money, yet they will share in more than $1.2 billion in stimulus money, the AP analysis published in July found.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...c--RgD9AGCLEG0

[classicman]

Its Bush's fault - they're just tryin to clean up the mess.

[TheMercenary]

Why of course it is...

"the Obama administration used stimulus money to pay for 50 airport projects that didn't meet the grant criteria and approved projects at four airports with a history of mismanaging federal grants."

[Shawnee123]

This is so far out there as to contention over nothing that I don't understand how you could read this and not be saddened by the turn of events. There was a time when children were taught to have faith in the country, to at least respect the leader even if it's not the leader you hoped for. I said this last line to nudge Merc and classic. Come on guys, what did Obama say that would warrant such hatred? I have no idea, because the speech hasn't happened yet. It seems to center around the importance of education, and staying in school, which seems to be pretty routine as agenda. Your cohorts believe this is a partisan effort? To do what? To encourage kids to stay in school, by our President? Egads, that asshole!

Someone should be very ashamed.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/...ols/index.html

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Shawnee123

This is so far out there as to contention over nothing that I don't understand how you could read this and not be saddened by the turn of events. There was a time when children were taught to have faith in the country, to at least respect the leader even if it's not the leader you hoped for. I said this last line to nudge Merc and classic. Come on guys, what did Obama say that would warrant such hatred? I have no idea, because the speech hasn't happened yet. It seems to center around the importance of education, and staying in school, which seems to be pretty routine as agenda. Your cohorts believe this is a partisan effort? To do what? To encourage kids to stay in school, by our President? Egads, that asshole!

Someone should be very ashamed.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/...ols/index.html

I have no problem with Obama speaking to school children. I do respect the right of parents or States Rights.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

And the study sheet the Obama Administration put out for school use pending Obama's upcoming speech was astonishingly personality-cultish for the United States. It is more what would be expected for Cuba, Albania, or Ingushetiya. Obama's people thought this would be a good idea. Well, when half your "special advisors" are communists, this is the sort of thing you have to expect.

And that lunatic Radar thought Obama was "the more libertarian candidate." Dear God, what ineptitude and imperception. Radar voted not his wisdom, but his wildly anti-Republican prejudices. It's a dumb thing to vote with your limbic system.

All politicians build personality cults. For instance, Bush still holds you in his grasp even as his very unRepublican interventionist programs continue to kill American soldiers and yield little in the way of democratic self government. Both major parties are cult-like. People compromise their beliefs for the necessary group think that governing requires. It is both creepy and inevitable for successful government.

[DanaC]

I also think it's quite distasteful to be bashng a former dwellar who isn't here any more. Hasn't been here for a heck of a long time. Not only is it distasteful, as he isn't around to mount a defence, but it's more than a little creepy as it shows a level of obsession that surprises me somewhat.