Vaccination & epidemic

[Aliantha]

I've never heard of any docs over here having a problem with it. There are guidlines for how to make the immunisation effective, but honestly, if it means an extra few visits to the docs, surely that's financially beneficial to them anyway, and I suspect that's how most of them here would view it.

Max is having his immunisation today. He'll be having all the scheduled 2 month shots.

Funny how Clod has been able to post, for the most part, with a minimum of courtesy and intelligence rather than filling her posts with personal insults and namecalling.

I may have used strong verbiage in my OP, but it wasn't personally directed at anyone. I was stating a strong opinion, rather than targeting an individual for personal insults.

Every interaction I've had with you since I came here - since before I came here, in fact - has involved you insulting me, Jim. Maybe you think it's "cute" or "friendly" to constantly make personal jabs at people, but I don't, and neither do any other adults I associate with. My repartee with you has nothing to do with me thinking I'm more "creative", "sensitive", or "feeling" than anyone else here... it had everything to do with you saying something shitty to me and me jabbing back at you.

Frankly, I think you're a bad person, and I don't want you to talk to me. You clearly don't like me, and I don't like you either. At all.

Thanks.

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by Tiki

Funny how Clod has been able to post, for the most part, with a minimum of courtesy and intelligence rather than filling her posts with personal insults and namecalling.

I may have used strong verbiage in my OP, but it wasn't personally directed at anyone. I was stating a strong opinion, rather than targeting an individual for personal insults.

Every interaction I've had with you since I came here - since before I came here, in fact - has involved you insulting me, Jim. Maybe you think it's "cute" or "friendly" to constantly make personal jabs at people, but I don't, and neither do any other adults I associate with. My repartee with you has nothing to do with me thinking I'm more "creative", "sensitive", or "feeling" than anyone else here... it had everything to do with you saying something shitty to me and me jabbing back at you.

Frankly, I think you're a bad person, and I don't want you to talk to me. You clearly don't like me, and I don't like you either. At all.

Thanks.

funny....i know i said i'd ignore you....but i just happened upon this thread and that deal is now off.

it was posted some 13 hours before the OP....where you use 'strong verbiage' not personal insults. see....i was offended by the tone of the 1st post in this thread because i knew we'd argued about this in the past, and felt like it might be directed at me and my family. now i see that it was, indeed.....even though you've claimed to be speaking in general since i've pointed it out.

fucking lying reality bending hypocrite jerkoff. i cant wait until you get back on your meds.

Originally Posted by lumberjim

funny....i know i said i'd ignore you....but i just happened upon this thread and that deal is now off.

it was posted some 13 hours before the OP....where you use 'strong verbiage' not personal insults. see....i was offended by the tone of the 1st post in this thread because i knew we'd argued about this in the past, and felt like it might be directed at me and my family. now i see that it was, indeed.....even though you've claimed to be speaking in general since i've pointed it out.

fucking lying reality bending hypocrite jerkoff. i cant wait until you get back on your meds.

Paranoid much?

Not only was my OP not directed at you and your family, but it wasn't even originally composed for this board... I posted it at CoG first, and then realizing that almost everybody there is underage and has no interest in the topic, I reposted it here.

You can keep on with your hysterical high-school-girl namecalling and persecution complex, but I suggest you reconsider your delusional belief that anyone spends that much time thinking about you.

[lumberjim]

I see you've finally taken "Fuck you Jim" out of your user title.

It stopped being funny when I realized you actually aren't a nice person.

[lumberjim]

i've stopped being nice to you, that's true.

I'm still a nice person in a general sense, though.

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by lumberjim

i've stopped being nice to you, that's true.

I'm still a nice person in a general sense, though.

I'd like to think so, Jim.

But you sort of stopped being nice to Tiki for no reason, and you've been a bit of a shit to her, also for no reason that I can see.

WTF?

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by TGRR

I'd like to think so, Jim.

But you sort of stopped being nice to Tiki for no reason, and you've been a bit of a shit to her, also for no reason that I can see.

WTF?

I would suggest that you lack information.

I turned the other cheek longer than i normally would, believe me.

not putting up with the cyclical nature of this particular crazy chick's mood swings anymore, thankyouverymuch.

Originally Posted by lumberjim

I would suggest that you lack information.

I turned the other cheek longer than i normally would, believe me.

not putting up with the cyclical nature of this particular crazy chick's mood swings anymore, thankyouverymuch.

WTF. Why don't you just leave me alone and stop poking me with a stick, if you don't want to "put up with" me? What information is there, that isn't visible on the board, except the occasions when you called me a liar in chat?

It would really be pretty easy to simply stop making shitty comments about/to me, or the over-the-top name-calling. It's not necessary and I don't enjoy it, and you don't seem to enjoy my retorts, either.

It's easy. I don't go around the board randomly saying shitty things to or about you, or calling you a liar in chat. If you stopped doing it to me, then I would most likely never have any reason to talk to you, let alone to be pissy with you, and we could co-exist in peace without EVER talking to each other or acknowledging each other's existence.

You clearly think I'm horrible

I think you're horrible

Let's ignore the shit out of each other.

[TGRR]

See? Easy solution.

[lumberjim]

Originally Posted by Tiki

Let's ignore the shit out of each other.

you have a deal.

on the count of 3, ignore....


1....



2.....


wait....


I'll count to 3, and then where 4 would go, we'll ignore. ready?

1....


2....


3....


ignore!

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

It's a concern. So much so that I worry about taking Max out in crowds because he could get whooping cough. I know it's alarmist to base my reaction on an isolated case, but my aunts friend just had to bury her 1 month old due to the disease. I don't want to take the chance, and it's a shame that there's a higher risk now than there was previously simply because some people choose not to immunise.

But the question is, do you not believe immunizing him will raise his risk of autism and a variety of other neurological and immunological disorders, or is it that you have weighed the risks given your family history and find that the risk of catching the disease is greater than the risk of the possible side effects?

[Aliantha]

Clod, the latter, although I don't believe there is enough concrete data to suggest there is a link between autism and immunisation. I believe all our lifestyles have changed so dramatically since immunisation really began that there are a huge number of other factors these possible side effects could be attributed to.

For one thing, look at all the other chemicals we regularly expose our bodies to, and that's just around the home. then consider all the chemicals in processed foods etc, aside from exposure to pesticides in the air from farming etc.

I'm sure you get my point. I just don't think autism et al, can be attributed to immunisation. certainly not all cases, and possibly none.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

Clod, the latter, although I don't believe there is enough concrete data to suggest there is a link between autism and immunisation. I believe all our lifestyles have changed so dramatically since immunisation really began that there are a huge number of other factors these possible side effects could be attributed to.

For one thing, look at all the other chemicals we regularly expose our bodies to, and that's just around the home. then consider all the chemicals in processed foods etc, aside from exposure to pesticides in the air from farming etc.

I'm sure you get my point. I just don't think autism et al, can be attributed to immunisation. certainly not all cases, and possibly none.

I think there has been a lot of sensationalism around the issue. The majority of large studies have not found a cause and effect relationship. There is still so much we don't know.