Now that Georgie has lost the Election...

[Undertoad]

Yes Bri, nobody wants YOUR progeny to be serving their country. Nowadays they want the ones who don't pee their pants at the first sign of danger.

The days of cannon fodder are over, but if you want to be a moron, a loser, and an idiot, go ahead and vote on the basis of little more than whim. Because that's how we get great leaders!

[jaguar]

UT, you usually avoid the personal attacks, I don't think this merits that kind of rubbish, why do you? Considering the way things are going in Iraq, not to mention TWAT in general, while a flat out draft is unlikely the chances of er....increased suggestions of a career dodging roadside bombs and mortars is likely.

[Undertoad]

Bri isn't interested in reading for comprehension.

[vsp]

Originally Posted by Beestie

Look at the bright side: now you have someone to blame. Someone for whom responsibility for your situation can be continuously assigned.

To what effect?

If the Republican Party and Bush administration can do what they've done over the past four years and not only win but win across the board, they have no reason to care what those outside their voter base think.

The next opportunity for rank-and-file citizens to express their discontent in any meaningful way is two years away, the midterm Congressional elections. In between then and now, the administration can do whatever damage they want, and force-feed as many theocrats into judicial appointments as possible. If the Democrats can find a way to stem the "moral values" tide between now and then in any measurable capacity, I'll be quite surprised.

[Trilby]

Originally Posted by Undertoad

Bri isn't interested in reading for comprehension.

Hm. Anyone with a differing opinion is a moron, eh? BTW, my kids are really not up for you to insult. That's waaaay beneath you.

[wolf]

Originally Posted by OnyxCougar

With more than half the people in America voting for Bush's policies and now a Republican Congress to back him up, who knows what will happen?

Hint: Look up the meaning of "representative democracy" and "democratic republic".

The key is in your statement "more than half the people" ...

[Trilby]

Oh, you know what?? Now that UT has explained it all to me (moron that I am) I TOTALLY see the error of my stupid ways and am now reformed! I SAID I didn't vote based on the draft issue---or, didn't you read for comprehension there?

[Trilby]

How could you say that about my kids?

[Undertoad]

Fine, I take it back.

[OnyxCougar]

Originally Posted by wolf

Hint: Look up the meaning of "representative democracy" and "democratic republic".

The key is in your statement "more than half the people" ...

Somehow, I missed your point.

[Kitsune]

Cool down, guys. Pick up a pen, write a letter to your representative/post flyers declaring your angst/whatever. This country has been so badly polarized for this long, I'm hoping everyone finds the time to cool down now that its over.

And have a drink, tonight, for Chrissakes. Relax. This election has been more stressful on everyone than most people realize.

Originally Posted by Beestie

Look at the bright side: now you have someone to blame. Someone for whom responsibility for your situation can be continuously assigned.

You bet. So if I see a situation that I percieve as being wrong, I'm supposed to shut up about it, and take it on the chin like a girl. Otherwise I'm playing the role of victim. That way you can do as you please without being accountable. Nice try.

[vsp]

Originally Posted by Kitsune

Cool down, guys. Pick up a pen, write a letter to your representative/post flyers declaring your angst/whatever.

My representative is Curt Weldon, who cosponsored a restart-the-draft bill BEFORE Rangel's bill.

My senators are Arlen Specter and Rick "Man-on-Dog" Santorum.

None of them could give a rat's ass what a suburban Democrat thinks.

Originally Posted by vsp

None of them could give a rat's ass what a suburban Democrat thinks.

Hear, hear! Colorado elected one democrat to the Senate. He may care what I think, but with a Republican President and Republican Congress and, most likely, a Republican Supreme Court, what's he gonna be able to do about it?

[iamthewalrus109]

Quote: "Always be wary of conflicts faught in your name that you are not asked to participate in" - Walrus

I start with one of my more sardonic statements to make this point: There's no draft because the will of the people to actually paticipate in this conflict is next to nothing. This is part of Charlie Rangel's contention. Although his reasoning is that it should effect law makers decisions if there children were forced to hide from a standing draft. My assertion is that this would awake the American people to the realities of the conflict in ways that are nothing short than extreme. Bush and the military-industrial complex don't want to alarm the coffers that the American tax payer offers. They start sending regular kids to die in the sand, you would see a lot of angry citizens. These are citizens not from military backgrounds, like many of the volunteers we see fighting today. A draft would mean true re-enfranchisement of the electorate, we would truly have a right, because regular people's lives would be on the line. All this would mean more people would want to be involved in decsion making, and policy would be harder to control.

-Walrus