NFL Should Dump Vick

[Sun_Sparkz]

why hasnt anyone just assassinated the prick yet. i would volunteer but i am alas, too far away.

"release the hounds" i say

[yesman065]

I so wish I had sound at work - it still looks funny though.

[freshnesschronic]

Dude, that clip is a great find rk.

Originally Posted by Sun_Sparkz

why hasnt anyone just assassinated the prick yet. i would volunteer but i am alas, too far away.

"release the hounds" i say

Of course, why wait to find out if he's guilty!?

Originally Posted by yesman065

Yes I went to one once - does that have any bearing on the situation with dogfighting? Not to me. A slaughterhouse is designed to provide food. Dogfighting...??? As I said a long stretch -

I see, why the animal suffers matters. If that works for you, cool.
For me, six of one, half-a-dozen of the other. The end is the same, so it is the same.
I don't like either.
Dog racing, bullfighting, horse racing, this, cock-fighting (still legal in some places in the US), the way we raise chickens, pigs and run our slaughter houses... all the same.
Vic is just us exercising our collective guilt.... IF he is guilty, that is.
To date, he is NOT.

[wolf]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Fresh, you mentioned cock-fighting in your country of origin: I don't believe this is the same. What you are describing is a sport which has been in continuous existence for hundreds, even thousands, of years. I personally think it is an appalling sport, but I can see the 'cultural difference' argument too. WHat we've been discussing in this thread, however, is not a continuation of something. Dog-fighting is something that has been around for long time, but has been considered culturally unacceptable in the West for many years.

So, cockfighting is okay because it's "cultural" (and chickens, incidentally, aren't terribly personable), but dogfighting, which likely has a longer history and cultural ties is not?

[yesman065]

Vick 'one of the heavyweights' in dogfighting

"He's a pit bull fighter," the source said of Vick. "He's one of the ones that they call 'the big boys': that's who bets a large dollar. And they have the money to bet large money. As I'm talking about large money -- $30,000 to $40,000 -- even higher. He's one of the heavyweights."

[yesman065]

And from another ESPN article

Poindexter told The Associated Press Wednesday he still doesn't have solid evidence linking Vick to dogfighting. He said there are no eyewitnesses who say they saw dogfighting at the home where 66 dogs were seized along with equipment that could be associated with dog fighting. The discoveries were made during a drug raid at the home on April 25.

Police also found items associated with dog fighting, including treadmills and a "pry bar'' used to pry apart a dog's jaws. Poindexter has said they also found a bloodied carpet and blood splatters on the floor in a room over the garage.

Vick, a native of Newport News who starred at Virginia Tech, is a registered dog breeder. He said he let a cousin, Davon Boddie, live at the house, and that he didn't know a large kennel on the property could be involved in criminal activity.

[Clodfobble]

The discoveries were made during a drug raid at the home on April 25.

Wait, what?

Did they find any drugs?

[Hime]

I am a vegetarian and believe in animal rights, but even accepting the argument that animal rights are a cultural construct and that we shouldn't expect others to share that idea, raising dangerous dogs and training them to kill without any license or permit and contrary to zoning regulations is a great way to get people hurt or killed, too. What if one of the dogs had gotten loose?

[yesman065]

Then ther would have been a few missing children and Bush would be getting the blame.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by Hime

raising dangerous dogs and training them to kill without any license or permit and contrary to zoning regulations is a great way to get people hurt or killed, too.

Vick is a licensed dog breeder in VA.

Originally Posted by wolf

So, cockfighting is okay because it's "cultural" (and chickens, incidentally, aren't terribly personable), but dogfighting, which likely has a longer history and cultural ties is not?

I don't like either.

That confuse you did it?

Originally Posted by Hime

I am a vegetarian and believe in animal rights, but even accepting the argument that animal rights are a cultural construct and that we shouldn't expect others to share that idea, raising dangerous dogs and training them to kill without any license or permit and contrary to zoning regulations is a great way to get people hurt or killed, too. What if one of the dogs had gotten loose?

I'd like to see your opinion on raising rodeo bulls based on this.

[Shawnee123]

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[wolf]

Now I've heard everything.

I just heard this on the radio. A prison inmate is claiming, "Michael Vick stole my pitbulls, sold them on ebay and used the proceeds to buy missiles from Iran."