The Obamanation - Page 92

Griff · 09-18-2011, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

But, to the advancing of the discussion: Did 'W' Squander 9/11 Unity?

I think we all squandered it in the intensity of the Iraqi run up. We're paying for that now. Had Bush focused on Afghanistan and made sure everyone had skin in the game (raised taxes and instituted military ~~slavery~~ draft) we may not have gotten to the point where nutters across the spectrum could dictate to moderates, who want only to live in a fair stable society, how our country is to be run.

BigV · 09-18-2011, 04:12 PM

I believe there is a solid connection between the idea of "squandered" and the advice of "Get on board. Do your business around the country. Fly and enjoy America's great destination spots. Get down to Disney World in Florida. Take your families and enjoy life, the way we want it to be enjoyed."

The focus to the citizens of the nation was "business as usual" with the emphasis on business. It was not a call to focus out attention and energy and resources on a war effort, but to maintain a (what was an unsustainable) economic trajectory. Since we hadn't yet run out of bigger fools, this worked for a while longer.

Yeah. He did squander our unity.

Urbane Guerrilla · 09-20-2011, 03:02 AM

More and more of this is showing up in more and more of the media. It makes "O in 2012" writers less and less and less credible as thinkers.

It's also been pointed out that such unity would have been in any case transitory. My unity with W's kind of ideas was of course not squandered, but then too I am not prejudiced against Republicans like some thoughtless people are.

classicman · 09-20-2011, 08:52 AM

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More and more of this is showing up in more and more of the media.

Sorry, but if you think more and more of that kind of thing is showing up in the media, then you are sadly mistaken. There are more extremist blogs out now, as they appear to have finally figured out how to use a computer.

infinite monkey · 09-20-2011, 09:07 AM

If there were more and more and more of the really thoughtful people and less and less and less of the mindless sheep-thinkers we'd have more and more and more wealth and more and more security and more and more dog-fearing real citizens would have more and more freedom to exercise their abilities of which they have more and more of. Consequently, there would be less and less of the losers and less and less of the stupid and less and less of the lesser types who more and more threaten to turn this country into more and more of a socialist regime and less and less of a moral upstanding land where more and more of the decent folks can live in less and less fear of the lesser among us.

Is that it?

sexobon · 09-20-2011, 09:58 AM

More or less.

infinite monkey · 09-20-2011, 10:19 AM

Yep, that's it in a nut's hell.

BigV · 09-20-2011, 10:20 AM

UG, you're wrong. There is not more of anything like what you linked to in sane, reasonable conversations. If this is typical of the kind of material you expose yourself to, then it could be true, but you have sadly confused cause and effect. This is the "kool-aid" people talk about. Stop putting it into your system. Dilute it with more, much more of (practically any) other stuff. I listen to Fox radio programming regularly and I do hear talk like this "Why is Obama destroying the economy?!" and other ridiculous crap like that.

You can talk yourself into believing, and this is a great way to do it. I think you are already well along this path. But you will have to travel this path to delusion alone, I will only watch you from an increasing distance as you fade into irrelevancy. Your intellect will be missed, but not the ill you bent it toward.

TheMercenary · 09-20-2011, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SamIam

Took you a while to reply, didn't it.

Yea, I work long hours days at a time. I don't come here everyday.

TheMercenary · 09-20-2011, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC

Plausible deniability is not good enough when it comes to casus belli.

But hey, you have fun painting Obama as a liar and a cheat.

Bottom line... no proof Bush lied about the run up to Iraq. If anyone were to blame I would put more blame on Cheney for many of the problems....

BigV · 09-20-2011, 06:15 PM

speaking of bottom lines--the clip you posted where you claim Obama lied, I'm still waiting for your response. Well?

BigV · 09-20-2011, 11:00 PM

thought so.

Lamplighter · 09-21-2011, 01:17 AM

BigV · 09-21-2011, 09:44 AM

roflmao!

TheMercenary · 09-21-2011, 07:49 PM

Anyone but Obama in 2012...

09-18-2011, 04:12 PM	#1367
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	I believe there is a solid connection between the idea of "squandered" and the advice of "Get on board. Do your business around the country. Fly and enjoy America's great destination spots. Get down to Disney World in Florida. Take your families and enjoy life, the way we want it to be enjoyed." The focus to the citizens of the nation was "business as usual" with the emphasis on business. It was not a call to focus out attention and energy and resources on a war effort, but to maintain a (what was an unsustainable) economic trajectory. Since we hadn't yet run out of bigger fools, this worked for a while longer. Yeah. He did squander our unity. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

09-20-2011, 03:02 AM	#1368
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	More and more of this is showing up in more and more of the media. It makes "O in 2012" writers less and less and less credible as thinkers. It's also been pointed out that such unity would have been in any case transitory. My unity with W's kind of ideas was of course not squandered, but then too I am not prejudiced against Republicans like some thoughtless people are. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

09-20-2011, 10:20 AM	#1373
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	UG, you're wrong. There is not more of anything like what you linked to in sane, reasonable conversations. If this is typical of the kind of material you expose yourself to, then it could be true, but you have sadly confused cause and effect. This is the "kool-aid" people talk about. Stop putting it into your system. Dilute it with more, much more of (practically any) other stuff. I listen to Fox radio programming regularly and I do hear talk like this "Why is Obama destroying the economy?!" and other ridiculous crap like that. You can talk yourself into believing, and this is a great way to do it. I think you are already well along this path. But you will have to travel this path to delusion alone, I will only watch you from an increasing distance as you fade into irrelevancy. Your intellect will be missed, but not the ill you bent it toward. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

09-20-2011, 06:15 PM	#1376
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	speaking of bottom lines--the clip you posted where you claim Obama lied, I'm still waiting for your response. Well? __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

09-20-2011, 11:00 PM	#1377
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	thought so. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

09-20-2011, 09:07 AM	#1370
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	If there were more and more and more of the really thoughtful people and less and less and less of the mindless sheep-thinkers we'd have more and more and more wealth and more and more security and more and more dog-fearing real citizens would have more and more freedom to exercise their abilities of which they have more and more of. Consequently, there would be less and less of the losers and less and less of the stupid and less and less of the lesser types who more and more threaten to turn this country into more and more of a socialist regime and less and less of a moral upstanding land where more and more of the decent folks can live in less and less fear of the lesser among us. Is that it?

09-20-2011, 09:58 AM	#1371
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	More or less.

09-20-2011, 10:19 AM	#1372
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	Yep, that's it in a nut's hell.

09-21-2011, 01:17 AM	#1378
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402

09-21-2011, 09:44 AM	#1379
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	roflmao! __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

09-21-2011, 07:49 PM	#1380
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Anyone but Obama in 2012... __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

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